Gennady Golovkin vs David Lemiuex Does Roughly 150,000 PPV Buys

[-MEGA-]

If it was against Ward, they would have had to pay people to watch.

Your unbelievably wrong. As per the norm though, so, no suprize.

[Barcham]

It's a dying model not because PPV in itself is dying. It's a dying model because professional boxing has been dropping in terms of it's popularity. PPV numbers dropping reflects that.

I just did a Crop survey about sports interests and there were questions about just about any sport you could imagine, from track and field to tennis to all the team sports to MMA and even WWE wrestling and there was one huge hole in their list... NO BOXING! There were Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics broken down by individual sports and that was the only mention of boxing in the entire survey.

Boxing has dropped below a fringe sport when it is not even considered as a choice in online surveys.

[The Gambler1981]

It's a dying model not because PPV in itself is dying. It's a dying model because professional boxing has been dropping in terms of it's popularity. PPV numbers dropping reflects that.

I suppose but if done right it can still be quite successful, to me that would be the main problem in this situation.

[hhs661]

lol wtf does Ward have to do with these numbers?

[Jsmooth9876]

The PPV carrier keeps 50 percent (cable companies, etc.) ... so add that into your equation.

Yeah I did...they still made money most likely...a few million from the gate maybe and sponsors.... And around 4.5 from PPV minus purses and promotions...they didn't make anything worth mentioning but I doubt they lost money.

[Luiz]

Rapidly declining market? I'm definitely rooting for PPV's demise, but boxing has broken its PPV revenue record three times during the last 8 years, twice during the last 2 years & I believe the UFC has 4 fighters (Weidman, Rousey, McGregor & Jones) who are pulling in 700k+ numbers lately which is great for them. Doesn't seem like its a rapidly declining market unless that just happened in the last 60 or so days.

If Canelo vs Cotto does 400k I think we can start talking about maybe Floyd vs Manny & Manny vs his subpar opponents pre-Floyd & Floyd vs subpar Berto post-Manny PPV's having a overall negative impact on PPV, but I think its just the formula of fights seen as lacking in competitiveness &/or hype not generating big numbers not the PPV going to ****.

Exactly why I say wait for Canelo and Cotto. If that can't sell there's a "problem".

UFC finds star every corner and can match the best vs the best. And Dana is great in his job

[Kagami Taiga]

Lol at ppl doubting fight hype tho. When was the last time they were wrong about something? They've been right numerous times.

[Eff Pandas]

It's a dying model not because PPV in itself is dying. It's a dying model because professional boxing has been dropping in terms of it's popularity. PPV numbers dropping reflects that.

Thats nuts. From 1988-2006 (19yrs) there had been 11 PPV's that had 1M+ buys & none that did 2M+. From 2007-2015 (9yrs) there have been 14 PPV's that had 1M+ buys, 3 that did 2M+ buys & 1 that did 4M+ buys. If you put on competitive fights they will come, if you don't they won't.

There is zero evidence people won't buy PPV to see perceived competitive fights between top fighters. When you try to put one over on the public you tend to feel that in your PPV numbers.

[radioraheem]

I suppose but if done right it can still be quite successful, to me that would be the main problem in this situation.

Of course, it can still be successful. But there's no one in boxing that are big mainstream stars right now besides Mayweather and Pacquiao. GGG is not a mainstream star, not even close. Don't be surprised if Cotto vs. Canelo doesn't even hit 1 million. Years ago, that was a guarantee. Not anymore.

[MrRolltide91]

Pay per view is a rapidly declining market. Mayweather just did around 400K. Cotto-Martinez was around 250K. 150K is a solid debut.

— Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) October 20, 2015

I'll wait for Canelo-Cotto but Floyd-Manny may hurt boxing PPV overall.

cotto/martinez was last year