Mike Tyson is the last DOMINATE America Heavyweight

[The Gambler1981]

Holyfield was pretty good~

Should have been Bowe though, that guy had all the talent in the world shame he didn't have the dedication to the game required to be truly great.

[jri9d0]

Holyfield was pretty good~

Should have been Bowe though, that guy had all the talent in the world shame he didn't have the dedication to the game required to be truly great.

This.

Thing is with Holyfield is that he had this yo-yo effect of winning titles and than soon losing them and winning and losing again. It minimized any hope of him ever being a long reigning undisputed American champ.

Bowe of course had s h i t ty training habits / dedication, which in so many words you already mentioned.

This in turn only left us with Michael Moore, Shannon Briggs and later Chris Bryd which all turned out to be more bust than **** killing the American Heavyweight landscape.

[BostonGuy]

Wilder may or may not assume that role. I think he has the potential, but I also think that he'll be in a very deep talented division in the next few years.

[The Gambler1981]

This.

Thing is with Holyfield is that he had this yo-yo effect of winning titles and than soon losing them and winning and losing again. It minimized any hope of him ever being a long reigning undisputed American champ.

Bowe of course had s h i t ty training habits / dedication, which in so many words you already mentioned.

This in turn only left us with Michael Moore, Shannon Briggs and later Chris Bryd which all turned out to be more bust than **** killing the American Heavyweight landscape.

I like Wilder but for that last 10 or or 15 years it has been can we at least get another Ray Mercer.

[The Gambler1981]

Seriously the last 10 years Tony Thompson has been the best American heavy. No disrespect to Thompson who is a decent fighter but there is no sad clown picture that can describe the sadness that that truth says.

[Jedi Vader]

Pre-internet if the TV and newspaper stopped reporting something (like they did when the heavyweight titles were taken by Europe) it just ceased to exist. It does seem like a lot of older Americans remember the guys before him, then Tyson, then... Boxing just stopped.

I like to think things will be different going forward with the internet and as titles jump country to country they will pick up new fans rather than lose them.

That's because the heavyweight division now is quite simply, shit.

[Deeznuts]

His personality, his story, his viciousness in the ring, he will be remembered for more years by casuals then Floyd will ever be

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That's because the heavyweight division now is quite simply, shit.

I think we all know your heroes from the 70s would be effortlessly stomped at the bottom echelon's of todays division. They woudn't even cut it at cruiser for the most part. Old topic though.

[kiDynamite92]

Dude probably went to high school with Mike.

Mike speaks very well actually. He often uses words that most would need a dictionary for.

[Joe Beamish]

Mike speaks very well actually. He often uses words that most would need a dictionary for.

Incorrectly, but yeah.

Actually he was always very astute (and enthusiastic) about boxing history. And he spoke well about fighters' abilities, great fights, etc.