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  • turnedup
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    #61
    Would love to see Kovalev vs Stevenson happen but honestly don't think it happens. It's interesting that Ward will likely end up fighting Kovalev before Stevenson does at this point.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #62
      Originally posted by Red Cyclone
      Could be a bad guess but I wouldn't put it past them only really taking interest in fighters that are mainly situated in America that and the popularity Kovalev and GGG share is greater than Wladimir Klitschko.

      Beside I think, well I know Wilder would be more than up for a Wladimir fight If Wlad doesn't lose to Dyson Fury.

      Its a start though If they do force WBC champions to fight the right guy and at the moment Povetkin is the right guy who deserves it and... hasn't the WBC forced that one on Wilder?
      Fair call. You're right, its a good decision..... just inconsistent.

      Poor Wladdie !

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      • Fetta
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        #63
        With Ward signing a 3 fight contract with the end being Kov theres no way this happens. Maybe in 2017 if he gets past Ward or if Ward loses one of those 2/3

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          #64
          Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
          They never began negotiating between Duva and Haymon, ever. If you read any of the BScene articles it always says the WBC (re)issues a purse bid IF they don't negotiate.

          They never began negotiations, there was never an "in negotiations process" they delayed and fought their own fights each.

          Duva also sued Haymon at one point and that didn't help negotiations start up either.

          Let's remember how we're at this point:

          1. Kovalev-Stevenson deal was being made for HBO. Sergey Kovalev since the beginning has an EXCLUSIVE contract with HBO dictating he only fights on HBO. Stevenson never had/has such a contract with HBO or Showtime in his career.

          2. Stevenson leaves Yvon Michael and GYM Promotions for Al Haymon's team.

          3. Al Haymon and Co. abandon HBO and board Showtime.

          4. Al Haymon and Stevenson ignore attempts at negotiating, fight their own fights, attempt to secure a Hopkins fight and fail miserably and now we're still waiting for a fight that could of already happened.
          Problem is, purse bids have been successful since the dawn of time, and they are fair. The closest that fight got is a purse bid, and Team Kovalev walked away.

          The reason why Team Kovalev walked away is absolutely irrelevant, because not only do purse bids work, they are fair.

          I think that public perception is a little twisted on this one, mainly because Stevenson is perceived as a low-life. That purse bid is the closest we got to that fight.

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            #65
            Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
            Kovalev went 12 with the Alien... I see Ward clinching more than BHop, but Ward with the youth advantage and reflexive speed. I too want to see Stevenson vs Kovalev soon.

            I bet we'll see a Ward vs Pascal sooner than a Kova vs Ward or Kova vs Stevenson.
            If Ward/Kovalev happens first that fight could lose some shine.

            Ward is the newcomer, he can fight the winner no problem.

            But if Stevenson/Kovalev doesn't happen real soon then I hope that Ward fights one of them, preferably Kovalev.

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            • mathed
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              #66
              Stevenson can wait his turn. Killa Kov has to put Pascal away then end Ward's career first, then Stevenson can get smacked up.

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                #67
                Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
                If you were managing Kovalev you wouldn't want one side to deal with all the promotion. You manage the #1 guy with 3 belts and you get bought out of promotion? Bull****.

                They should be able to negotiate instead of Haymon forcing it into a purse bid. Haymon refuses to negotiate with Duva's team and make it seem like Kova and Duva are running when they simply want a fair negotiations instead of a purse bid.

                They will all get paid good regardless of what happens, it just should be done at the table not with who has the biggest check to buy the promotion rights.
                This is nonsense. You act like duvs wants to negotiate at all when in fact she doesn't. If she wanted to then she wouldn't have given Stevenson a take it or leave it deal that requires stevenson to fight on HBO despite the fact she know he affiliated with haymon and therefore showtime.

                A take it or leave it deal is not a negotiation.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                  This is nonsense. You act like duvs wants to negotiate at all when in fact she doesn't. If she wanted to then she wouldn't have given Stevenson a take it or leave it deal that requires stevenson to fight on HBO despite the fact she know he affiliated with haymon and therefore showtime.

                  A take it or leave it deal is not a negotiation.
                  Stevenson is scared, dude. That is the reason they won't fight. If a fighter is will to fight another fighter, then I don't think Al Haymon should really matter.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by TheThirdEye
                    FUNNY


                    The WBC 53rd Annual World Convention will be held in Kunming, province of Yunnan in China, from November the 1st to November 7th 2015. Means the WBC will reveal the 2016 mandatories. The WBC didn't leave the WBC Diamond belt in Kovalev hands for nothing. They will still persue Kathy Duva's original bluff/request from December 2014. Kovalev vs Stevenson will be mandatory again.
                    Klimas/Duva could try every technic to avoid a clash between Kovalev & Stevenson, I wonder if fans will still buy this; I won't...
                    Nicole Duva says, team Stevenson setup a purse bid too early; Good!
                    Now that HBO have the Team Bluffers back, what will be the new lie of team Kovalev, what will be their new excuse for not fighting Stevenson for the Undisputed Champion unification of the LHW division.
                    - If you are a Kovalev fan, please push him to Stevenson, so Stevenson could Finish Him!

                    It only takes 1 clean left, One...
                    "We will find a way for it to happen, said promoter Yvon Michel. We are trying to control the mandatory challenger so that Kovalev have no other choice but to choose to fight for the unification. We really try to put all the pressure we can. "

                    Source: RDS.CA
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                    I guess I can say, I told you so

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                      This is nonsense. You act like duvs wants to negotiate at all when in fact she doesn't. If she wanted to then she wouldn't have given Stevenson a take it or leave it deal that requires stevenson to fight on HBO despite the fact she know he affiliated with haymon and therefore showtime.

                      A take it or leave it deal is not a negotiation.
                      No, but a purse bid is.

                      Originally posted by R-C
                      Stevenson is scared, dude. That is the reason they won't fight. If a fighter is will to fight another fighter, then I don't think Al Haymon should really matter.
                      Pretty dumb man. This isn't high school.

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