Manny Pacquiao just leave, you might have some brain damage

[Zaroku]

He meant was he knew he will be cheated.

All the cards were stack up against him.. It's his subconscious telling him his walking to a trap he can't win.

It wasn't god. It was his common sense telling him what's up.


he knew he was going to be cheated in Vegas even a month before. The cards were stacked against him. It manifested into a godly dream, but in fact it's pretty much common sense.

Floyd had Nsac, USADA, Vegas, promotion, referee in his pocket. Being blood drained 14x by Usada. His dream is his subconscious telling him he has been played from day 1. He was being ready for slaughter, but yet he still was more aggressive than the roided up iv man.

Pac felt it. He knew mr IV man has stacked the deck against him.

Can PAC fans allow him the right to fail. He already carries the weight of his countrymen on his shoulders. So much pressure. Everyone with a problem coming to him. Problem = I need cash, please help me. I lived in Makati for over a year, and hearing about problems was a constant, daily event.

PAC nearly died against Marquez. But he fought on for his twisted Fans. His doctor told him to retire. WTF do you expect from him???

This is the crap that upsets me. He had a great career. I don't want to see him face planted again or worse. I wish him well. Can his crazy fans think about his health and let him retire??? What about sonsona? Or whatever his name is?? That kid can fight! I like him a lot.

Move on.

[tangalog2200]

Can PAC fans allow him the right to fail. He already carries the weight of his countrymen on his shoulders. So much pressure. Everyone with a problem coming to him. Problem = I need cash, please help me. I lived in Makati for over a year, and hearing about problems was a constant, daily event.

PAC nearly died against Marquez. But he fought on for his twisted Fans. His doctor told him to retire. WTF do you expect from him???

This is the crap that upsets me. He had a great career. I don't want to see him face planted again or worse. I wish him well. Can his crazy fans think about his health and let him retire??? What about sonsona? Or whatever his name is?? That kid can fight! I like him a lot.

Move on.

your concern for pac is very noble...

but please don't lump all pac's fans the way you did up there..."twisted Fans"

first, pac has some losses even before the jmm and floyd bouts...and his fans still stick with him...so your "allow him the right to fail." statement is somehow misplaced...

pac fights not only for his fans....remember, he is involved in charity works and he is in politics...you need dough to be able to do that...

[Zaroku]

your concern for pac is very noble...

but please don't lump all pac's fans the way you did up there..."twisted Fans"

first, pac has some losses even before the jmm and floyd bouts...and his fans still stick with him...so your "allow him the right to fail." statement is somehow misplaced...

pac fights not only for his fans....remember, he is involved in charity works and he is in politics...you need dough to be able to do that...

You are correct. I should not have lumped all his fans togeter.
But he is just a man. Like all men. He can fail.

[BrometheusBob.]

Physically he's still very impressive and obviously still a threat to any active 140-147 fighter. That being said, and despite the fact that I don't agree with everything OP said, I'll agree that he might be mentally shot to some degree and not just in the killer instinct department.

I obviously only know what I hear through the media so I can't make a terribly informed opinion on him fighting still, but I hope that his team and family are considering his health a priority and I hope that they will discourage him from fighting again if they have reason to believe that he's not capable of fighting anymore or that he is showing signs of brain damage as OP has eluded to. I don't mind trying to end the career on a high note, but ultimately his well being is much more valuable than that.

I think he was suggesting he knew he'd get screwed over. He said he knew he would lose the decision and that it was unclear, or that there was a problem. He's obviously dead wrong, but he's not contradicting his other claim about actually winning. He feels he was cheated but knew it was going to happen because of a dream lol.

I interpreted it the same way.

[IIG]

Something definitely isn't right with him. He hasn't been the same for quite some time now, his behavior is just off.

[tangalog2200]

Physically he's still very impressive and obviously still a threat to any active 140-147 fighter. That being said, and despite the fact that I don't agree with everything OP said, I'll agree that he might be mentally shot to some degree and not just in the killer instinct department.

I obviously only know what I hear through the media so I can't make a terribly informed opinion on him fighting still, but I hope that his team and family are considering his health a priority and I hope that they will discourage him from fighting again if they have reason to believe that he's not capable of fighting anymore or that he is showing signs of brain damage as OP has eluded to. I don't mind trying to end the career on a high note, but ultimately his well being is much more valuable than that.


I interpreted it the same way.

i have long ago stated for pac to retire...even before the floyd fight...

but knowing pac's plans and aspiration for higher office (that i do not see as necessary for him to be able to help his people-as he can still do the same as an ordinary rich citizen), i can see from where he is coming from...he needs the money, plain and simple...

[PAC-BOY]

He knew his arm wasnt great. He knew he had to KO floyd to get the win. Kinda hard to do when Floyd was hugging on him all night and running. kinda hard to do when the ref allowed it to. He also knew going to the cards he wasn't gonna get a fair chance.

[Luilun]

All Paquiao fans please read this, and stop living in denial as well, Pacquiao is never coming back to form....get it through your head, he is done because his brain is not right.

Man dude has been hit in the head too many times, He has been saying and doing a lot of questionable things, and now he claimed he knew he was going to lose to Floyd? Seriously man I thought he stopped smoking weed and doing coke?

This dude is the same man who said he beat Floyd after the fight and weeks after saying he won. Now he is using God saying God told him he would lose in a dream? If you are a Christian man this is called Blasphemy, Pac is playing games now his brain is messed up from the beatings he took in the ring and the weed and ******* he took for years since he was a teen. So if you knew months before and God told you in a dream that means you were defying God by telling everyone you won? Manny seriously why you lying now, maybe Pacquiao is playing around and is not really religious and only doing it for image and so Jinkie don't leave?

If this man ever becomes president he might even sign over the country to another country because he had a dream and a vision.

That old womanizing, ********, catholic Pacuqiao is gone, and I advise every fan who still believes he will show up to also wake up to reality stop holding onto what he used to be the monster Tasmanian devil who would not stop punching and showed no mercy on his foe, those days are gone, Pacquiao fans are similar to Mike Tyson fans, they keep believing the monster will comeback.

His next fight he will just box to a decision and retire, he will not try or even attempt to finish the guy or hurt him.

Leave boxing because you are hurting your legacy, people will now remember you as a joke.

First you said you won, now you saying you had a dream and knew you would lose? come on man someone help this man before he goes broke.

I say that Marquez ko ruined him

[Cinci Champ]

He meant was he knew he will be cheated.

All the cards were stacked up against him.. It's his subconscious telling him his walking to a trap he can't win.

It wasn't god. It was his common sense telling him what's up.


he knew he was going to be cheated in Vegas even a month before. The cards were stacked against him. It manifested into a godly dream, but in fact it's pretty much common sense.

Floyd had Nsac, USADA, Vegas, promotion, referee in his pocket. Being blood drained 14x by Usada. His dream is his subconscious telling him he has been played from day 1. He was being ready to be slaughtered, and yet he still was more aggressive than the roided up iv man.

Pac felt it. He knew mr IV man has stacked the deck against him.

its his subconscious alright but its telling him he cant back up the words hes been saying all these years and he knew he was about to be exposed

[TheStranger]

Yeah I sometimes think people read too much into their dreams (like prophecy) and sometimes not enough like.. you cannot beat him with an injury whether you believe in the injury or not just sayin only Manny knew what was going on in his head and maybe he was denying certain truths to even himself. Or maybe it was just a ****** dream, or that he dreamt the night before that he won and simply didn't remember it. It's just a ****** dream. This totally could have been merged into the other thread btw. But between the two, I suspect Floyd will be the one to have gone out with a whimper. Pac will likely KO khan, not safely decision his stablemate.