Comments Thread For: Video: Loeffler Talks Ward, Cotto-Canelo, More

[tiliheels]

Jesus, stay on task.

Froch fight at 168, and GGG likely wouldn't need to put on full weight to beat him. But sure, Froch is not better than Ward.

Doesn't that fit perfectly in what I just say. Twist away man, twist away.

Ward doesn't fight at 168, and he rehydrates much heavier.

Ward rehydrates to almost 190.

Besides, two different fighters. Ward is a difficult fight. GGG isn't looking to go to 168.

Besides, Ward isn't judged differently. He is getting credit for what he did 4 years ago.

He isn't testing himself. He isn't doing jack right now. He is being judged for that.

Ward is actively chasing a MW, but is a legit LHW size fighter.

Ask Ward about Kovalev, he suddenly says he'll do what's best for his family, and he needs to pray about it.

But he is all in to fight the smaller GGG.

ward walks around at 160...for dawson he rehydrated under 175...so please stop lying...ggg has been 173 @ 30 day weigh ins...and he claimed that camp that he could fight today ..bc he stays ready

its a good fight but we wont see..and its a black on both guys resume..ward beating kovalev would make me forget all about GGG..and he'll always be ranked higher than ggg imo if he does that

[tiliheels]

I'm sick of Cotto playing keep away with the lineal title, but not fighting his mandatory.

I'm sick of this idea some how Canelo is too small for GGG, but he is fighting for the MW title.

If neither of them want to man up, then GGG gets belt and moves towards unification.

And Team GGG has basically challenged Ward to produce the email.

If they are telling the truth, what does that really say about Ward.

cotto is too small..for god sakes he's lost at every weight he has ever been at except 140..i have no interest in ggg vs a former 140 lb champ...dont let belts determine integrity...bc the sanctioning bodies themselves dont show integrity..

and ggg is an enigma..he has no resume....we want a p4p fight..not canelo..i mean canelo at this point is just waiting to be exposed..he's never won a big competitive fight clear.. lets be real kirkland was handing him us as$...if the guy could take a punch he would have outworked and hurt canelo

[firstborn]

Jesus, stay on task.

Froch fight at 168, and GGG likely wouldn't need to put on full weight to beat him. But sure, Froch is not better than Ward.

Doesn't that fit perfectly in what I just say. Twist away man, twist away.

Ward doesn't fight at 168, and he rehydrates much heavier.

Ward rehydrates to almost 190.

Besides, two different fighters. Ward is a difficult fight. GGG isn't looking to go to 168.

Besides, Ward isn't judged differently. He is getting credit for what he did 4 years ago.

He isn't testing himself. He isn't doing jack right now. He is being judged for that.

Ward is actively chasing a MW, but is a legit LHW size fighter.

Ask Ward about Kovalev, he suddenly says he'll do what's best for his family, and he needs to pray about it.

But he is all in to fight the smaller GGG.

How am I not on task? You can't talk about Ward these days without talking about GGG or Kovalev.....

I see where you're coming from in regards to weight on the night of the fight and that being the case, GGG's camp shouldn't have made such a broad claim if they actually had certain stipulations for certain fighters.

Seems like you're contradicting yourself. First half of the response you list specific reasons why Ward is different than Froch, then you claim he's not being judged differently toward the end. Which one is it?

Ward might be able to fight at LHW but if he can still make 168lbs, why not stick around for a few more lucrative fights before moving up?

[tredh]

Jesus, stay on task.

Froch fight at 168, and GGG likely wouldn't need to put on full weight to beat him. But sure, Froch is not better than Ward.

Doesn't that fit perfectly in what I just say. Twist away man, twist away.

Ward doesn't fight at 168, and he rehydrates much heavier.

Ward rehydrates to almost 190.

Besides, two different fighters. Ward is a difficult fight. GGG isn't looking to go to 168.

Besides, Ward isn't judged differently. He is getting credit for what he did 4 years ago.

He isn't testing himself. He isn't doing jack right now. He is being judged for that.

Ward is actively chasing a MW, but is a legit LHW size fighter.

Ask Ward about Kovalev, he suddenly says he'll do what's best for his family, and he needs to pray about it.

But he is all in to fight the smaller GGG.

So GGG weighs 160 on fight night and doesn't add on any weight after the weigh in?

Tell me what weight do you think Chavez Jr would've rehydrated to? Just a ballpark figure will do.

The bold red is the flat out truth as to why the fight is not happening nothing more to it than that. GGG and his team like their chances with any other fighter at 160 or 168. That's cool but they need to stop acting like they have accomplished more than Ward and should 100% dictate everything in that fight. Ward and GGG HBO are ratings are close in numbers. GGG is 100% the bigger and hotter name right now so Ward should make some concessions to GGG for the fight to happen but coming down to 164 should never be one of them.

Can a GGG fan explain to me how Lara has to earn a shot to fight GGG and tell me at the same time what exactly did Willie Monroe Jr do to earn his fight with GGG?

[Progrssive_Jedi]

What about Froch? Froch was in the same weight class as Ward and people had no problem with the idea of them fighting....if you're a GGG fan then you're not being genuine because you already know why Ward even pursued the idea in the first place.

As a fan of both GGG and Ward, I'd rather they not bother fighting now anyway. Ward is judged differently, he wouldn't get any credit if he beat GGG.

Exactly.

i guess i mean they would be a lot closer on fight night then u would think actually but now ward is making the decision that he thinks ggg will never take the risk in fighting him at 168 so he better start working his way up to 175

GGG hasn't moved to 168, don't count on 175 anytime soon.

ppl dont forget p4p fights..he can capture all those false mw belts from above average fighters...but 10 years from now he will be like they said with floyd pac...if they dont fight each (gggward) ppl are going to point to the Aside for not making the fight...and it should be that way...we deserve the best fights..with a p4p fight in between

False MW belts!

Cotto is Lineal MW champ.

Canelo is about to be.

GGG can unify, be lineal, and break B-hops record. That's a big deal, no matter how you look at it.

And GGG will probably move up some day. However, Ward is hardly the only challenge bigger than him.

ward has been off 2 years nobody is going to move up and fight the best off for 2 years....and also ggg brought it on himself when he said anyone from 154-168....
and ppl are rushing GGG bc he has a terrible resume and he's 33...another thing that ppl dont worry about with ward

Ward is two years younger, and admittedly gonna waist yet another year.

GGG is on precipice of Superstardom.

I don't think it's GGG that needs to rush.

[aboutfkntime]

Radio Rahim catches up with Tom Loeffler, promoter of WBA/IBO champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, to discuss the upcoming unification clash with IBF middleweight champion David Lemieux. [Click Here To Read More]

Whats funny is this..... Ward hasn't mentioned Golovkin, and yet, Team Golovkin simply cant stop talking about him.

Oh, they are just replying to questions from the media.

Oh really, funny, because Team Golovkin tried to tell me two days ago that Ward is irrelevant, and that nobody cares about him

Team Golovkin asked for this when they really started pushing that "anyone from 154-168" schtick.

Stop moaning golovkids, Ward hasn't said a thing.

[aboutfkntime]

I don't begrudge him wanting to get ready for Kolalev.

But Ward fans don't use that same logic when GGG is brought up.

Ward is much closer to Kovalev in size that GGG is to Ward.

But somehow GGG is supposed to drop what he is doing at 160, to go fight Ward LHW azz.

You mean, exactly like Golovkin was willing to do for Froch/Chavez ?

You and I both know why Team Golovkin think that the entire world has no interest in Andre Ward.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

DID he say Ward walks around at 160. Are you dense.

ward walks around at 160...for dawson he rehydrated under 175...so please stop lying...ggg has been 173 @ 30 day weigh ins...and he claimed that camp that he could fight today ..bc he stays ready

its a good fight but we wont see..and its a black on both guys resume..ward beating kovalev would make me forget all about GGG..and he'll always be ranked higher than ggg imo if he does that

Ward had went on ESPN studios and specifically said he is walking around at 180. So get that out of your head right there.

Dawson, that fight was how long ago? Jesus, come on man.

cotto is too small..for god sakes he's lost at every weight he has ever been at except 140..i have no interest in ggg vs a former 140 lb champ...dont let belts determine integrity...bc the sanctioning bodies themselves dont show integrity..

and ggg is an enigma..he has no resume....we want a p4p fight..not canelo..i mean canelo at this point is just waiting to be exposed..he's never won a big competitive fight clear.. lets be real kirkland was handing him us as$...if the guy could take a punch he would have outworked and hurt canelo

COTTO is too small, but he is the LINEAL MW CHAMP. If he is too small, then standing in the way of GGG from getting his due is probably as much BS as it seems.

Cotto fought for the belt at 157. He fought a MW, and he wasnt too small then.

Canelo, he will soon be MW CHAMP. IF they are small (which in Canelo's case is a complete canard) then they will vacate and get out of the way.

How am I not on task? You can't talk about Ward these days without talking about GGG or Kovalev.....

I see where you're coming from in regards to weight on the night of the fight and that being the case, GGG's camp shouldn't have made such a broad claim if they actually had certain stipulations for certain fighters.

Seems like you're contradicting yourself. First half of the response you list specific reasons why Ward is different than Froch, then you claim he's not being judged differently toward the end. Which one is it?

Ward might be able to fight at LHW but if he can still make 168lbs, why not stick around for a few more lucrative fights before moving up?

I'm saying Ward is better than Froch. GGG doesnt need to gain a bunch of weight to fight Froch.

GGG would need every bit of the extra weight for Ward, especially considering Ward is much bigger.

GGG doesnt want to get bigger, and then come all the way down to 160 or even 155 to get the LINEAL belt.

That isnt that easy to do. But my guess is they didn't believe GGG would need extra weight for Froch, Ward is bigger and better, so yea, that weight is needed. Nothing wrong with that.

That hardly means Ward is held to a different standard. It is just recognizing Ward is not truly a 168 fighter. He walks around at 180, rehydrates to almost 190.

So GGG weighs 160 on fight night and doesn't add on any weight after the weigh in?

Tell me what weight do you think Chavez Jr would've rehydrated to? Just a ballpark figure will do.

The bold red is the flat out truth as to why the fight is not happening nothing more to it than that. GGG and his team like their chances with any other fighter at 160 or 168. That's cool but they need to stop acting like they have accomplished more than Ward and should 100% dictate everything in that fight. Ward and GGG HBO are ratings are close in numbers. GGG is 100% the bigger and hotter name right now so Ward should make some concessions to GGG for the fight to happen but coming down to 164 should never be one of them.

Can a GGG fan explain to me how Lara has to earn a shot to fight GGG and tell me at the same time what exactly did Willie Monroe Jr do to earn his fight with GGG?

First, GGG rehydrates to 170, the same as many JR.MW's like Canelo (who is fighting for MW champtionship), Andrade, Lara.

GGG last fight, he weighed in at 157 I think.

As for why Monroe was ok, but Lara isnt exactly appealing, its because Lara just lost and isnt a MW yet.

Besides, Lara got the Canelo fight by talking crap, and lost. Why does he deserve a shot at the best in the next division.

Lara isnt so good he just gets to jump from one big fight to another, not if he loses.

Monroe is a Ranked MW. Lara is a JR. MW who had just lost to Canelo.

Monroe actually brought more to the table, like people.

Now Lara is the size of a MW, but he doesnt get that fight just by yapping and coming off of a loss.

If Lara can come up to MW and get ranked, some decent wins. I imagine that GGG would give him a shot. But not before taking care of what he has in front of him.

You mean, exactly like Golovkin was willing to do for Froch/Chavez ?

You and I both know why Team Golovkin think that the entire world has no interest in Andre Ward.

Actually, they have twice said they would fight Ward. The catchweight was mentioned. Ward never responded to that.

GGG supposedly said he would fight Ward in the past, but Ward wasnt ready.

And even the fight contract Ward did send, after the PPV was signed, was to fight next year (Fall).

I do not believe GGG is worried about Ward. I believe he just has work to do.

Funny thing is, Ward is saying he needs to do fight before he fights anyone at LHW.

But somehow you all think GGG should skip everything in front of him to go up to fight a guy who Rehydrates to 190, with no tune-ups.

That is the double standard here.

And why be scared of Ward, all he does is hold.

I want them to fight, but it is a risky fight, because Ward is tricky. But it is a fight that must mean something, be huge on PPV, and that means Ward needs to get to work.

Chasing a MW is not gonna cut it.

[aboutfkntime]

Actually, they have twice said they would fight Ward. The catchweight was mentioned. Ward never responded to that.

Stoppit willya

Earlier, Team Golovkin stated that "Ward needs to become relevant again".

Well if that is really true, why did they offer him a catchweight ?

And Ward did respond, he laughed.

Come on man, you know Ward cant make 164, that was a blatant duck.

[aboutfkntime]

Stoppit willya

Earlier, Team Golovkin stated that "Ward needs to become relevant again".

Well if that is really true, why did they offer him a catchweight ?

And Ward did respond, he laughed.

Come on man, you know Ward cant make 164, that was a blatant duck.

Ward was relevant enough to offer him a catchweight.

But since rejecting the catchweight, Ward is no longer relevant.

WTF ?