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  • icha
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    #61
    Originally posted by doninlouisiana
    I did not say a limit of 155, I said the MW division's LIMIT is 160, you can weigh 155 -160 and be in that division(Comprende?). Catchweights are whatever the two fighters agree upon to fight, usually below the limit.
    canelo fought with a limit of 155, comprende???

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #62
      Originally posted by doninlouisiana
      Isn't MW 155 to 160(154 is JMW limit) with the latter being the limit? Canelo has been fighting for awhile at this weight and re-hydrates to 170 on fight night. He technically is a MW.
      There is no such thing as " technically a middleweight ".

      Whenever anybody uses the word " technically ", they are reaching badly.

      FACT: Canelo fights JMW's at 155, out of entitlement.

      He is obviously a JMW, and he can obviously still make 154.

      He is technically a spoilt kid, nothing more.

      Show me a middleweight who weighs 155 ?

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      • Don Pichardo
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        #63
        Originally posted by Puya
        Why no one mentions Cotto's body work on Floyd.
        Cotto did a lot against Floyd. Jab. Hook to body. Overhand rights. He basically did it all against Floyd. He just didn't do enough. Couple more combos a round would have won him the fight. Glad he hired Gavin to get his conditions up.

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          #64
          Originally posted by icha
          when the limit is 155 then is a CW, MW has a limit of 160 not 155... and most fighters at JMW have fought numerous times over 154 and rehydrate over 170, that doesnt mean they are MWs...
          BINGO..... good post !

          A smart boxing fan who understands the game.

          Middleweights are able to prepare for a fight held at 160, Canelo has never done that.

          Middleweights fight middleweights, Canelo has never done that.

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          • doninlouisiana
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            #65
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            There is no such thing as " technically a middleweight ".

            Whenever anybody uses the word " technically ", they are reaching badly.

            FACT: Canelo fights JMW's at 155, out of entitlement.

            He is obviously a JMW, and he can obviously still make 154.

            He is technically a spoilt kid, nothing more.

            Show me a middleweight who weighs 155 ?
            Well put AFT

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            • Heavyfist
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              #66
              Originally posted by jorgepichardojr
              Cotto did a lot against Floyd. Jab. Hook to body. Overhand rights. He basically did it all against Floyd. He just didn't do enough. Couple more combos a round would have won him the fight. Glad he hired Gavin to get his conditions up.
              Floyd caught him at a good time, but Cotto could still ****. He wasn't a completely shot fighter, but after his earlier wars, he has never been as good as he used to be.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Heavyfist
                Floyd caught him at a good time, but Cotto could still ****. He wasn't a completely shot fighter, but after his earlier wars, he has never been as good as he used to be.
                Thats how I see it.

                Since the first Margarito fight Cotto has not looked like the same confident on-top-of-his-game fighter..... until moving to wildcard recently.

                Nobody can deny that Cotto is past his best, but his combination with Roach seems surprisingly good.

                Never underestimate the power of confidence and self-belief..... and sometimes you have to go back to the drawing board and revive what worked.

                Never thought Cotto would fight a real middleweight.

                Never thought that Cotto would crush Geale, even considering the catchweight.

                Cant wait for the Cotto/Canelo fight, and dont really care who wins.

                I ride with both, Cotto is my boy, but he is nearly ready to ride off into the sunset and he would be a great breakout win for Canelo.

                Great fight, cant wait !

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                • BlackSoul
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                  Care to explain why you think that.

                  Here is why I think GGG wins: (the video linked below breaks this down well).

                  GGG has better---

                  Better jab

                  Better movement. Way betteR footwork.

                  Able to throw power with both hands.

                  Able to throw power from southpaw and regular.

                  Able to switch stance during power combinations, making his base more steady. Hardly ever caught off balance. (which is why he has never hit the canvas, professionally, and it's said in all his fights.). Never seen him stunned eithe.

                  Way better Chin.

                  Able to use jab as a powerful offensive and defensive tool.

                  Able to cut off ring.

                  Uses should and jab to blunt opponents offensive attack, oftentimes redirecting his opponents shots past his head, or making them land with less force.

                  GGG fights way more often, meaning it's second nature.

                  Which goes back to the experience factor, GGG has likely seen it all after 400 fights.


                  Lemieux has power, but he loads his shots and swings wide. His only shot is a lucky power shot, and I think GGG will be read for it.

                  Lemieux wants GGG to make a mistake and get him off his game. I don't see it happening.
                  50/50 fight between cotto and canelo when the winner emerges from the smoke from both fights THEN i can make a comparison.

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                  • BlackSoul
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jorgepichardojr
                    Cotto did a lot against Floyd. Jab. Hook to body. Overhand rights. He basically did it all against Floyd. He just didn't do enough. Couple more combos a round would have won him the fight. Glad he hired Gavin to get his conditions up.
                    just rewatched the mayweather/cotto fight again like 2 days ago and i had it 10 rounds to 2 for mayweather MAYBE 3 rounds MAYBE.

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                    • Yaconcha
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      There is no such thing as " technically a middleweight ".

                      Whenever anybody uses the word " technically ", they are reaching badly.

                      FACT: Canelo fights JMW's at 155, out of entitlement.

                      He is obviously a JMW, and he can obviously still make 154.

                      He is technically a spoilt kid, nothing more.

                      Show me a middleweight who weighs 155 ?
                      damn straight..
                      dont forget to add other irritating words and phrases like, "like" "basically" "sort of like" "what it is" "end of the day" and not forgetting the bell end son here who list their favourite fighters including ray robinson and they are only "LIKE" 8 YRS OLD!..ha ha nice one.

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