Textbook boxer.

[mann187]

Andre Ward

[New England]

No fighter sets traps, rolls and counters, moves back on his feet, uses the check hook, leads with the straight right without setting it up with the jab, leads with a leaping hook or jabs to the body the way Floyd Mayweather does, I've never seen a fighter do or let alone combine all these things like Floyd Mayweather, and if you're the only one who does something, this means u r not a textbook guy.

Not saying he invented everything he does, but him combining all these different things and using them at the right time is definetly not textbook.

no, that simply means you have the talent to do it.


i don't think you understand what textbook means. it does not mean plain or not dynamic. joe louis was one of the most dynamic offensive fighters we have seen. he also threw the righ thand straight as an arrow, and followed it up with a short left hook.

i know you didn't read my post. textbook subscribes to the idea that there is a "right" way to do things, and committing to it. there's no "textbook" style that has transcended eras in boxing. it's constantly been shifting. a fighter who is "textbook" in 1920 will look completely different from a fighter in 2015 who fights shorter fights, with bigger gloves with an attached thumb, in a smaller ring, with hard leather and foam padding on his knuckles.



you've not addressed the fact [not opinion] that the spectrum of what contsitutes a textbook boxer is always shifting. floyd mayweather doesn't deviate from his style, which is based on diagnosing an opponent's offense and timing counterpunches. that committment is textbook. you don't need to keep both gloves up all the time, like winky wright, to be textbook.

[BattlingNelson]

Mikkel Kessler pre Froch1
Felix Sturm
Sven Ottke
Lennox Lewis

[New England]

a bunch of euros. they're all i understand.

fixed.

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[soul_survivor]

What modern fighters would you say are the best examples of the textbook pure boxer?

Someone who is very orthodox and straight with his punches? With a very typical "hand up, chin down" defense? And straightforward, well schooled footwork?

Then in terms of what I've seen in recent years, you can't pick against Ward, Mikey, Barrera when he felt like boxing and a younger Bhop.

In fact, there's this vid I saw once of Bhop v Tito, a breakdown of how the great one won and almost every time Bhop threw a punch, he'd have his opposite hand up to block counters, or his shoulder and chin tucked in nice and tight and he would be throwing straight punches only. It's literally everything we're supposed to do when we're taught boxing but without any of the bad habits. Remarkable.

[MrClutch85]

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