[did you know]roberts garcia recalls turning down offer to train miguel cotton

[STAX ON DECK]

Why do you hate him for taking a knee? His chin was holding up, so he wasn't going to get KOed.
Did you just want him to get Tko'ed like Margarito was vs. Mosley?

Cotto had no more stamina & he would keep taking knees until he loses the round 10-0. Do you hate Hearns for not pulling it off vs Leonard?

cotto did get tko'd....

[MrRolltide91]

He is not too liked here, a ganglord in PR here slapped the **** out of him (back in 2007) because Cotto got a bit too flirty with one of his girls after doing *******. Friends have told me stories of Cotto having ******* around his nose and being drugged as **** back when he was with Evangelista.

He is not loved like Tito was. When Tito came back to PR there were parades, win or lose. When Cotto comes back to PR everybody is asleep. I have seen people take knees in public in front of Cotto and he pretends he doesnt see them lol.

well damn...

[Build That Wall]

Robert Garcia doesn't train F*ggots.

[Build That Wall]

He is not too liked here, a ganglord in PR here slapped the **** out of him (back in 2007) because Cotto got a bit too flirty with one of his girls after doing *******. Friends have told me stories of Cotto having ******* around his nose and being drugged as **** back when he was with Evangelista.

He is not loved like Tito was. When Tito came back to PR there were parades, win or lose. When Cotto comes back to PR everybody is asleep. I have seen people take knees in public in front of Cotto and he pretends he doesnt see them lol.

Isn't Cotto more likely to flirt with another Man.

[Cinci Champ]

Lol que no me voy a tomar ninguna foto so locaaaaaaa. Ive never been there in my life and Im not going to go there for the first time just for u lol.

im a little confused why do people not believe golovkin on this one? i guess they figure its part of the character u play sometimes when you are messing around but geez

[Agent Mulder]

I for one believe Golovkin. Dude even said mods could check his IP. And yeah, Cotto isn't liked in PR nearly as much as the nuyoricans like him(& that's only because they're looking for a father figure ).

LOL at dudes getting upset because Golovkon isn't a blind, biased, automatic cotto-loving, flag waving idiot lol. Props for keeping it 100%

[SunSpace]

I'm from Ponce, born and raised, ask the mods to check my IP. I can take photos to prove it, plus I have numerous photos-videos of fights/press conferences I have gone to (Juanma-Salido II, Rocky-Salido, Danny Garcia-Herrera etc). But that's really beside the point. I am not your typical Rican though, I am from the americanized/modern sector. I don't watch local channels, neither am I connected to our culture much, that's why its easy for me to not feel attachment to the roots. I look more european than your typical PRican as well.

The jibaros here are the only ones who don't know how to speak english. Most educated people know english to some extent, at least at my college (Sagrado). I don't know about the UPR because all the broke jibaros end up there.

I would take a knee in front of Cotto for the lolz and then knock him the **** out Marquez style if he gets ******.

I'm sorry, but I have to comment on what you've been saying. I'm also Puerto Rican. I've gone through a similar disconnect as you have. In my case, I spent a few childhood years in the states, and then once I returned here, I was shocked by the cultural differences. My take on it back then was that people here were loud, bluntly opinionated, and not too accepting of "different" Puerto Ricans. I was an outcast for most of my high-school years, and, I suppose, directly and indirectly bullied in almost every imaginable way. As I grew up, I'll admit I had a lot of anger over this. I'll tell you, though, I recommend not categorizing people as hillbillies. Most people on the island don't know how to speak English. And, as a former teacher, I can tell you that teaching a language here is an uphill task. In fact, weren't they considering eliminating English classes from the curriculum recently? Not to mention that Spanish became the only official language again. All I'm trying to say is that, although I know that cultural differences can be uncomfortable, that's all they are. The English situation can be chucked up to a reluctance to accept what many still view as a foreign language. I'd say more, but I'd be giving too much information.

As to the UPR comments, I went to the UPR. Honestly, from the point of view of everybody I've ever bumped into on the island, the UPR is the best place to go. That's why I chose it. To say all the broke hillbillies go there is not only insulting, but also untrue. Why disparage it? It's known that, to be accepted in, they require higher GPA's than private colleges, including yours. So, what's the point of insinuating that uneducated people go there? I have more than enough of my own gripes with that system, but I have to admit that much.

Also, I'm afraid you're close to convincing yourself that you're somehow genetically different, too. There are tons of white-looking Puerto Ricans here. I am one of them. Does that mean that the African and Taino in me disappeared? I have but to look in the mirror to confirm otherwise. Puerto Ricans are a mix that never stops, and what in one generation is a "white-looking" family, turns out to be a "black-looking" family the next. Over and over. That's what makes us what we are. I'm saying this because I've seen ignorant people going as far as to claim that Puerto Ricans don't have black in them. Not only was this racist, but also ridiculous. I'm hoping you don't end up going down a similar route, is all. Don't let the anger cloud your judgment.

You are correct on that generations are becoming different, but what's left of them? Almost all of the youth our age have left the island. You go into supermarkets, and they almost look like retirement homes. And, let me tell you, I just came back from Arizona. If you think that looking "more european" than other Puerto Ricans will make things smooth in the states, you're gravely mistaken. The political climate in the states is essentially battling over race right now. Racism in the states is huge. Since you will be another youth, that like me, left for there, you will see in due time. They can spot a latino a mile away, and how you will be treated won't be to your liking. I went there to try their educational system, and I wasn't even given the chance. You'll see what I'm talking about. I don't blame you for leaving like I did. I've been unemployed for months. There are no jobs here, so it's a natural reaction. All I'm saying is that, instead of fighting to fix our situation, we've let the ship sink. I know it wasn't our doing, but unless you're one of the lucky few, the states won't be all it's hyped up to be. In the end, I chose to stay with my family. And, every day, I live with the decision, hour by hour, second by wasted second. It's tragic our island has come to this.

Let's talk boxing. As to that Cotto rumor you mentioned, I've never heard a version of it that included *******. Considering Cotto's still performing so well years later, I'm inclined to think that's an exaggeration. It's no secret that Cotto's success isn't appreciated on the island. In fact, there's a Cotto-Tito diss-off happening right now on TV. I've seen interviews where Tito's dad was saying that Cotto's done, and that he's basically beaten nobody, being "helped to the maximum." Then, they interviewed Cotto, and Cotto asked the interviewer to compare what Tito did at the latter stage of his career versus what he's done. What is going on here? I was tempted to post about it here on boxingscene, but I decided not to, until now, because I didn't want to add any fuel to the fire. Cotto's quiet, and he has a better record than Tito--it's time our island got over it. What's the big deal? Is it so hard for our island to support a "different" Puerto Rican? And, in your case, especially, don't you realize that those traits of Tito that have earned your support are exactly the ones you're criticizing in the rest of Puerto Ricans? He was loud, was known for his trouble in speaking languages throughout his career, drank "chicken sauce", and went to the ring wearing la PAVA, which is most known for being used by JIBAROS--Hillbillies! Did you not notice that contradiction?

Let me add that it wasn't my intention at all to put you on the spot, but I decided to comment because you reminded me of myself. I've spent years battling similar emotions, and I felt I had to share the conclusions I've come to.

[BTL]

I'm sorry, but I have to comment on what you've been saying. I'm also Puerto Rican. I've gone through a similar disconnect as you have. In my case, I spent a few childhood years in the states, and then once I returned here, I was shocked by the cultural differences. My take on it back then was that people here were loud, bluntly opinionated, and not too accepting of "different" Puerto Ricans. I was an outcast for most of my high-school years, and, I suppose, directly and indirectly bullied in almost every imaginable way. As I grew up, I'll admit I had a lot of anger over this. I'll tell you, though, I recommend not categorizing people as hillbillies. Most people on the island don't know how to speak English. And, as a former teacher, I can tell you that teaching a language here is an uphill task. In fact, weren't they considering eliminating English classes from the curriculum recently? Not to mention that Spanish became the only official language again. All I'm trying to say is that, although I know that cultural differences can be uncomfortable, that's all they are. The English situation can be chucked up to a reluctance to accept what many still view as a foreign language. I'd say more, but I'd be giving too much information.

As to the UPR comments, I went to the UPR. Honestly, from the point of view of everybody I've ever bumped into on the island, the UPR is the best place to go. That's why I chose it. To say all the broke hillbillies go there is not only insulting, but also untrue. Why disparage it? It's known that, to be accepted in, they require higher GPA's than private colleges, including yours. So, what's the point of insinuating that uneducated people go there? I have more than enough of my own gripes with that system, but I have to admit that much.

Also, I'm afraid you're close to convincing yourself that you're somehow genetically different, too. There are tons of white-looking Puerto Ricans here. I am one of them. Does that mean that the African and Taino in me disappeared? I have but to look in the mirror to confirm otherwise. Puerto Ricans are a mix that never stops, and what in one generation is a "white-looking" family, turns out to be a "black-looking" family the next. Over and over. That's what makes us what we are. I'm saying this because I've seen ignorant people going as far as to claim that Puerto Ricans don't have black in them. Not only was this racist, but also ridiculous. I'm hoping you don't end up going down a similar route, is all. Don't let the anger cloud your judgment.

You are correct on that generations are becoming different, but what's left of them? Almost all of the youth our age have left the island. You go into supermarkets, and they almost look like retirement homes. And, let me tell you, I just came back from Arizona. If you think that looking "more european" than other Puerto Ricans will make things smooth in the states, you're gravely mistaken. The political climate in the states is essentially battling over race right now. Racism in the states is huge. Since you will be another youth, that like me, left for there, you will see in due time. They can spot a latino a mile away, and how you will be treated won't be to your liking. I went there to try their educational system, and I wasn't even given the chance. You'll see what I'm talking about. I don't blame you for leaving like I did. I've been unemployed for months. There are no jobs here, so it's a natural reaction. All I'm saying is that, instead of fighting to fix our situation, we've let the ship sink. I know it wasn't our doing, but unless you're one of the lucky few, the states won't be all it's hyped up to be. In the end, I chose to stay with my family. And, every day, I live with the decision, hour by hour, second by wasted second. It's tragic our island has come to this.

Let's talk boxing. As to that Cotto rumor you mentioned, I've never heard a version of it that included *******. Considering Cotto's still performing so well years later, I'm inclined to think that's an exaggeration. It's no secret that Cotto's success isn't appreciated on the island. In fact, there's a Cotto-Tito diss-off happening right now on TV. I've seen interviews where Tito's dad was saying that Cotto's done, and that he's basically beaten nobody, being "helped to the maximum." Then, they interviewed Cotto, and Cotto asked the interviewer to compare what Tito did at the latter stage of his career versus what he's done. What is going on here? I was tempted to post about it here on boxingscene, but I decided not to, until now, because I didn't want to add any fuel to the fire. Cotto's quiet, and he has a better record than Tito--it's time our island got over it. What's the big deal? Is it so hard for our island to support a "different" Puerto Rican? And, in your case, especially, don't you realize that those traits of Tito that have earned your support are exactly the ones you're criticizing in the rest of Puerto Ricans? He was loud, was known for his trouble in speaking languages throughout his career, drank "chicken sauce", and went to the ring wearing la PAVA, which is most known for being used by JIBAROS--Hillbillies! Did you not notice that contradiction?

Let me add that it wasn't my intention at all to put you on the spot, but I decided to comment because you reminded me of myself. I've spent years battling similar emotions, and I felt I had to share the conclusions I've come to.

cool post.

ive read on here that ricans claim JLO as what a rican should look like, do u agree?... looking into the history of PR i see a island of mixed races, predominatly european and black... tianos were pretty much all killed off, so i find it strange when they say tiano blood.... it seems like they dont want to consider themselves as looking black... similar to what the Dominicans think.

[SunSpace]

cool post.

ive read on here that ricans claim JLO as what a rican should look like, do u agree?... looking into the history of PR i see a island of mixed races, predominatly european and black... tianos were pretty much all killed off, so i find it strange when they say tiano blood.... it seems like they dont want to consider themselves as looking black... similar to what the Dominicans think.

Thanks. You know, the amusing thing about Puerto Ricans is that they come in all shapes and sizes. There is no one way a Puerto Rican should look. We're a very admixed population. You may find this interesting:

https://liorpachter.wordpress.com/20...-puerto-rican/

As to the Tainos, here you go:

http://voices.nationalgeographic.com...rican-history/

[BTL]

Thanks. You know, the amusing thing about Puerto Ricans is that they come in all shapes and sizes. There is no one way a Puerto Rican should look. We're a very admixed population. You may find this interesting:

https://liorpachter.wordpress.com/20...-puerto-rican/

As to the Tainos, here you go:

http://voices.nationalgeographic.com...rican-history/

right, very mixed population just like all the mestizo countries out there.

my issue was when someone told me that JLO is what a rican suppose to look like.