Comments Thread For: Roach Prefers Marquez For Manny Pacquiao's Next Fight

[sterilizer]

42 year old fighter who hasn't fought in over a year. At this point, Marquez needs to retire.

Exactly. It is true that it is NOW the easiest option for Manny. But it's also the most cowardly option. What if the roles were reversed, and the 42 y/o with no action lately was Manny? It's pathetic to even contemplate Marquez as an option.

What they should do, both Roach and Manny, if they are so sure that Pac is the better fighter and he lost because of his shoulder injury, is challenge Mayweather to a 2nd fight, calling him yellow, a coward, a runner, whatever it takes to force the guy to fight Pac again. They should also ask for a neutral venue, not in the US, no American judges, no referees that are friends with Mayweather. IDK, some place like the UK or Australia may be cool for example.

The first rounds of that disappointing fight Pac was really putting a beating on Floyd. Yet all of a sudden, Manny lost all his speed, power and will to fight, so it makes sense to think that he was injured, because I really don't want to think he sold himself out to pretend that suddenly Floyd "figured him out" and all that speed and power from the early rounds just went away for no reason, by the 2nd third of the fight.

Manny-Floyd should be the ONLY possible fight on the minds of both Pac and his trainer. Maybe a warm-up fight first with a bum like Khan, to get some confidence and maybe even a KO win, and then get serious and do the re-match with Mayweather.

[hardvibes]

And then manny cowardly claimed that he fought injured. Can we just cut the crap and stop treating Manny like some bold champ who "gives" people rematches and is short changed by shady activity. He's no victim. He's the scammer.

Stop.

Manny's injury was real:

- sparring partners were sent home before the end of the training camp and confirmed the injury. They couldn't talk about it before the fight of May 2nd

- reported the injury before the fight and was denied a shot for the pain

- hematoma on his skin visible after round 6, exactly where the rotator cuff injury occurs (as reference, watch the video below at 2min30). There was NOTHING before.

Before


After
[IMG]http://img.***********.com/albums/v619/hardvibes/floyd-mayweather-vs-manny-pacquiao-14-photo-by-naoki-***uda.jpg[/IMG]


- suddenly stops throwing a couple of punches during the fight

- floyd pulls his arm on different occasions (he even said he knew all about Manny's camp, how many times he went to piss, how many rounds he sparred etc. Very easy to lie and say he didn't know about the injury. Well...him pulling that right arm is the proof he did. Manny also repeatedly told him during the fight "don't do that")
There was a mole in the camp http://www.businessinsider.com/pacqu...-injury-2015-5

And FYI you can still push, raise your arms and throw shots with a rotator cuff injury. Sometimes it can hurt depending on the movement. When you pull, it definitely hurts like a b1tch. For some movements it hurts but you still can complete them. For others you don't feel much.

- Dr.Neal ElAttrache (the same doctor who performed the surgery on Kobe Bryant's shoulder), confirms the successful operation



- MRI


What else do you want?

And
Fights Ledwaba on 2 weeks notice
Fights Barrera 2x
Fights Morales 3x
Fights Marquez 4x
Fights Margarito
Fights Bradley 2x
Did better against Cotto
Did better against Hatton
Did better against De La Hoya
Did better against Mosley
The FIRST AND ONLY Champion in 8 different classes
He loses? It happens. That's the name of the game. What's important is that he gets back up every time and fights anybody. That's what real champions do, in and outside the ring.
A true warrior.
You don't agree with this? You're full of poop.

[Cinci Champ]

It's not uncommon for injured fighters from long layoffs to get a warm up bout.

no doubt i wouldnt blame him if he does i just dont think he needs it is all

[sterilizer]

Stop.

Manny
The FIRST AND ONLY Champion in 8 different classes
He loses? It happens. That's the name of the game. What's important is that he gets back up every time and fights anybody. That's what real champions do.
A true warrior.

That's what real MEN do.
A true MAN. A true FIGHTER.

Floyd is a true coward. A shame and disgrace to boxing. There has never ever been in history a top fighter that has "fought" in such a cowardly fashion and been allowed so much cheating --clinching, pushing, elbowing, rabbit-punching and more-- and who always chooses the venue, the referee, the judges, the drug tests (to be applied on the opponent only).

No one of the true ATG top 10 of all time he compares himself with such as Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Frazier, Marciano and so many more, was EVER a coward and a cheater like he has always been. They all traded punches. They all won frequently by knockout, even at the end of their careers. Some of them even had the nerve to "predict" by which round they would knock out their opponent.

Wasn't it for people like Golovkin, Kovalev, Pacquiao, Marquez and Mosley, as well as Canelo and Cotto to a smaller degree, this would have been probably the worst era in boxing, if everybody "fought" like the likes of Mayweather, Ward, Rigondeaux and Lara.

[Travycat]

Roach: "Here's what we need to do...A. bring up the MRI so we can live that BS excuse down when everyone clearly saw Manny use both arms at full capacity--it's not like when Vitali Klitschko fought Dereck Chisora and tore his left shoulder in round 2 and had to clearly fight the entire fight with only his right arm. No, Manny is a chameleon!" And B. Marquez: "I don't want to risk losing the last fight! No touch backs! No gives-e-backsies! Gotchu last! Haha! Face! (Marquez runs off under the swing set never to be seen again during recess).

[ShoulderRoll]

The great Mexican warrior has said many times that he is not interested. KO6 put the definitive stamp on the rivalry and it will be the lasting image of their fights for eternity.

Just accept that and let it go, Freddie.

[Lester Tutor]

The great Mexican warrior has said many times that he is not interested. KO6 put the definitive stamp on the rivalry and it will be the lasting image of their fights for eternity.

Just accept that and let it go, Freddie.

Roach got a lucky charm up his sleeve, he wants to implement plan B, the same as when he did with James Toney. Then gets caught up on the roids again and says, ''I didn't know anything about it! That's all hearsay.''

[oneon11]

No need to fight Pacroid again!!! Hell Marquez damn near killed him in the last fight & now they want to try and get another fight with him so they can rob him like before. Only thing a 5th fight will do is hatch open more excuses from Pacroid & the mystery shoulder injury. Hey I know what happen to the little test ducking juicer, it was Floyd's should roll that he couldn't figure out hench "Me hurt me shoulder & couldn't use it', or my favorite one "He wouldn't stand still so me could hit him". Pacroid the dumbest fighter of the decade.

[Manic Shot]

I can't blame Roach,there's still a bad blood with JMM but let's move on.Pacman vs Matthysse or Garcia, not to Khan (like watching sparring session).

[mneronava2k]

Stop.

Manny's injury was real:

- sparring partners were sent home before the end of the training camp and confirmed the injury. They couldn't talk about it before the fight of May 2nd

- reported the injury before the fight and was denied a shot for the pain

- hematoma on his skin visible after round 6, exactly where the rotator cuff injury occurs (as reference, watch the video below at 2min30). There was NOTHING before.

Before


After
[IMG]http://img.***********.com/albums/v619/hardvibes/floyd-mayweather-vs-manny-pacquiao-14-photo-by-naoki-***uda.jpg[/IMG]


- suddenly stops throwing a couple of punches during the fight

- floyd pulls his arm on different occasions (he even said he knew all about Manny's camp, how many times he went to piss, how many rounds he sparred etc. Very easy to lie and say he didn't know about the injury. Well...him pulling that right arm is the proof he did. Manny also repeatedly told him during the fight "don't do that")
There was a mole in the camp http://www.businessinsider.com/pacqu...-injury-2015-5

And FYI you can still push, raise your arms and throw shots with a rotator cuff injury. Sometimes it can hurt depending on the movement. When you pull, it definitely hurts like a b1tch. For some movements it hurts but you still can complete them. For others you don't feel much.

- Dr.Neal ElAttrache (the same doctor who performed the surgery on Kobe Bryant's shoulder), confirms the successful operation



- MRI


What else do you want?

And
Fights Ledwaba on 2 weeks notice
Fights Barrera 2x
Fights Morales 3x
Fights Marquez 4x
Fights Margarito
Fights Bradley 2x
Did better against Cotto
Did better against Hatton
Did better against De La Hoya
Did better against Mosley
The FIRST AND ONLY Champion in 8 different classes
He loses? It happens. That's the name of the game. What's important is that he gets back up every time and fights anybody. That's what real champions do, in and outside the ring.
A true warrior.
You don't agree with this? You're full of poop.

Maybe the injury was real, I hope it was.

I'm no Floyd fan. I'm more of a Manny fan. But, this reoccurring theme of Manny losing via some external force, or shady business has to stop. This nonsense about Manny "giving" Marquez rematches has to stop.

Manny's fanbase are the dumbest fans in sports. You can't blame me for being skeptical of his Injury; he's afraid on needles, Roach doesn't know what Ariza was giving him, manny sues over steroid accusations, yet Fortune (a known user) is welcomed back, and Manny's fanbase accuse Marquez of roids because manny gets decapitated. It's always something from Manny's fanbase.

You can't blame me. Definitely not red k worthy, homey.

Again, I wish Manny held off and fought Floyd healthy. I hope your right

Also, the biggest b-move is Manny saying "don't do that". Come on, man--it's a fight

And again in closing--my contention was fanboys claiming manny "gave" Marquez rematches. Manny needed them. And doesn't deserve one now