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Can Pacquiao finish his career and be considered equal to or better than Floyd

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  • #21
    Originally posted by gamesworn View Post
    Haha. You are one the biggest Floyd Fanboy here. You can believe what you want. There is no point arguing with you.
    Believe? Boxing is not shown in novels (Hauser), it's shown on Television.

    You should try and disprove sentences...at least one of them.

    "Cowards do that." -Rocky

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    • #22
      Can he dominate and stop Maidana and Alvarez with no catch-weight and win the lineal welterweight title and have Floyd not come back out of retirement?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
        Pac fought guys after Floyd beat...requesting catchweights.
        Pac's been KOd 3 times. Marquez put him to sleep! Can't change history.
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
        Believe? Boxing is not shown in novels (Hauser), it's shown on Television.

        You should try and disprove sentences...at least one of them.

        "Cowards do that." -Rocky
        I'll give you 1 example and I'm done with you. You are one of the blind fanboy here.

        Pacquiao defeated Marquez first before Floyd.

        Pacquaio beaten Marquez in his prime, in his best weight without catchweight and he did not cheat on scale like Mayweather.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ironmt View Post
          I am just curious as to what others opinions are on where these to fighters stand when comparing there resumes and career accomplishments.
          If you actually looked at their accomplishments throughout the year you wouldn't have created an erroneous title of "considered..."

          The fact is Top Rank is suspect in moving up in weights throughout the years. They always avoided WADA by Floyd. WADA does not equal 365 random blood testing as they also cater the best medical protocols for all world sports to comply with. Asking Bob Arum to participate in 365 during Pacs time in rising in weights...dont kid yourselves. This whole boxing forum admitted that most boxers juice. Point....excuses..

          "Cowards do that." -Rocky

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          • #25
            Originally posted by gamesworn View Post
            I'll give you 1 example and I'm done with you. You are one of the blind fanboy here.

            Pacquiao defeated Marquez first before Floyd.

            Pacquaio beaten Marquez in his prime, in his best weight without catchweight and he did not cheat on scale like Mayweather.
            Marquez 1, Draw. Marquez got floored 3 times in RD 1. He went the distance with Pac...Pac's juice ran out..didn't know what to do.

            Marquez 2, Pac won.

            Marquez 3, whole boxing community said Marquez won.

            Marquez 4. Vindication of the truth. Floored twice. Lights out.

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            • #26
              Very hard for Pacquiao cuz his run at WW is just very weak, from 2009 till 2015 his run was just ridiculous, which is a big part of his career. Beat physically and mentally damaged Cotto who just got cut up and humliated a year earlier by a guy with plaster in his hands, then Clottey coming off a loss, then Margarito coming off a KO loss for a vacant title at a catchweight, then Mosley coming off 2 losses, then a loss to Marquez, then a controversial loss to Bradley who never fought at 147 before, then a KO loss to Marquez, then unranked Rios who's moving up in weight AND coming off a loss to a C level fighter, then Bradley again which wasn't bad then Algieri which was a joke fight, then got outboxed by a 38 year old Floyd Mayweather who just gave the worst 2 performances of his career a year earlier.

              IMO Pacquiao's biggest win was against Barrera, Morales beat him and then he dragged him down from 135 to 130 after a loss in the rematch instead of moving up and fighting the winner Zahir Raheem, he also never beat Marquez clearly and eventually got KOed by a 40 year old Marquez, who else did he beat? Ledwaba? The Thai guy in Thailand? These are good wins but not enough to put him in the conversation really.

              Was Pacquiao on the P4P list for 15-16 years of his career? Was he the best P4P for 7 years? Was he 26-0 in championship fights? Did he beat 23 current or former champions? NO.

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              • #27
                He is better than Fraud TBE Floyd.

                The****utic Baloney Exemption.

                If they went after Armstrong, they will get Floyd.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by sargo View Post
                  He is better than Fraud TBE Floyd.

                  The****utic Baloney Exemption.

                  If they went after Armstrong, they will get Floyd.
                  Went after? If such an imaginary case actually happened both parties would have to conceal medical records from who knows when...including the lost test samples said by Pac during the Morales fiasco.

                  It would open up a bigger can of worms that Pac has been suspect since day 1. Which would mean Floyd's previous lawsuits about Pac on PEDs would be overturned. Arum's not that ****** to let any of that happen. Maybe..

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                  • #29
                    He's a step below Mayweather; that much is certain.

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                    • #30
                      If Pacquiao somehow managed to beat or get a draw with Khan that would probably propel him above Floyd because Floyd ducked Khan for life so Pac would have faced the man who sent Floyd into retirement. Hell, even if Pac lost to Khan it still might place him above Floyd just for facing him?

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