Will GGG's power carry to SMW?

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  • DLX
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    Will GGG's power carry to SMW?

    These guys say he has freakish power, and some say he has Heavy Weight power.










  • The Big Dunn
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    #2
    you mean will it go to 164 because he hasn't made an offer to fight anyone at 168.

    Power always goes up with you. You don't hit softer when you move up, it's just the other guys can take it better.

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      #3
      I've got no reason to believe it won't but he's unwilling to find out.

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        Originally posted by b00g13man
        I've got no reason to believe it won't but he's unwilling to find out.
        I wouldn't say unwilling, just premature. The guy has PPV fights lined up. Once he has all the belts at 60 he really doesn't have much of a choice but to move up. But it would be dumb of him to move up now. Canelo/Cotto vs GGG would be the biggest PPV to make in the sport.

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        • Joe Beamish
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          I don't think GGG has the frame to move up to 168.

          GGG strengths:
          -- Power
          -- Boxing skills

          GGG weaknesses
          -- Mediocre speed
          -- Shortish (listed at 5'9")

          Power does not necessarily travel up in weight class. A much greater boxer than GGG, Roberto Duran, had single punch power as a lightweight. This didn't move up with him, even to WW. He had to gain more skills and get cute. Which he did.

          Point being, you have to land the power on the opponent without getting hurt in the process, and GGG can't give up height and reach and expect to succeed against guys over 6' tall such as Ward.

          Then again, it's hard to predict GGG's capabilities, because (very unlike Duran), GGG has not been tested against great competition.

          I say no, he can't carry the power up and land it.

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            Well Arthur Abraham was an absolute monster at MW. 5 KOs in 17 fights at SMW. He was a guy having difficulty making weight at MW. About the same height as GGG.

            So GGG will probably still knock some guys out at SMW, but he won't be the 20 KO streak destroyer he is at MW. Which is why his haters want him to move up.

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            • DLX
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              #7
              Originally posted by Joe Beamish
              I don't think GGG has the frame to move up to 168.

              GGG strengths:
              -- Power
              -- Boxing skills

              GGG weaknesses
              -- Mediocre speed
              -- Shortish (listed at 5'9")

              Power does not necessarily travel up in weight class. A much greater boxer than GGG, Roberto Duran, had single punch power as a lightweight. This didn't move up with him, even to WW. He had to gain more skills and get cute. Which he did.

              Point being, you have to land the power on the opponent without getting hurt in the process, and GGG can't give up height and reach and expect to succeed against guys over 6' tall such as Ward.

              Then again, it's hard to predict GGG's capabilities, because (very unlike Duran), GGG has not been tested against great competition.

              I say no, he can't carry the power up and land it.
              Interesting reply. Height and reach are very important, which is why I mostly selected videos of larger men who have sparred with him. Because they obviously got touched if they respect the power.

              I agree he doesn't have the frame of a SMW. MW is the weight he should stay at. He would have to add lean mass and do it over time. His skill, chin and punching power is what would allow him to be successful at SMW.
              Last edited by DLX; 09-24-2015, 02:35 PM.

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              • Joe Beamish
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                Originally posted by DLX
                Interesting reply. Height and reach are very important, which is why I mostly selected videos of larger men who have sparred with him. Because they obviously got touched if they respect the power.

                I agree he doesn't have the frame of a SMW. MW is the weight he should stay at. He would have to add lean mass and do it over time. His skill, chin and punching power is what would allow him to be successful at SMW.
                Yeah, but one of those dudes in the video said he actually knocked GGG down. So yes, height, size and reach matter to a tremendous degree.

                When I look at GGG, I see a guy who's fighting at the right weight for himself. His body, his frame look to be correctly placed at MW. He's not walking around a ton above the weight limit and draining down; he's old school in every respect.

                I believe that the only reason we talk about GGG moving up is because Abel Sanchez has shot his mouth off saying that they would take on anyone from 154 to 168. Then Ward said OK, let's do it.

                GGG himself never said anything like this. He has been consistent. He's been focused on taking all the belts at 160 and then we'll see.

                He's what, 34 years old now? He doesn't have a million years left, and he's still going to have to wait and hope to fight Cotto or Canelo (possibly even after a rematch between those two.)

                Sparring is different from fighting, as you know, so I think there are some guys at 168 that might give GGG more than he wants at his frame size and relative lack of hand speed/flash.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #9
                  Of course. Some guys will have better chins that can take it, but Golovkin will still be a huge puncher at super middleweight.

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                  • PK3434
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                    Yes, easily. Every time he touches an opponent, they get hurt. He spars bigger guys who all say his power is incredible. Even kovalev is on record saying that GGG has more power than himself.

                    I think the question is whether his power would carry up to light heavyweight.

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