Why do certain posters label Floyd a clincher,he had 49 fights

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  • HardSpar
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    #61
    Mayweather used the Devon Alexander blueprint to beat Maidana in the rematch. Except he did less convincingly lol.

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    • Bram
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      #62
      If you want to just point to the last portion of his career and say that he held too much, that's fine, I don't have an argument against that, but I don't historically consider Mayweather to be a clincher and I'm not his biggest fan. I look back at his career and say that he was a very good inside fighter and that's a large part of the reason that he was successful because he could stand right in front of people and make them miss. That was his defensive genius, not tying someone up every time they got close to him and as he aged and lost some of his physicality that's what he did to adjust. He stopped fighting out of clinches because he wasn't several steps ahead of the competition anymore and he started to initiate them more, as opposed to someone like Roy Jones who never really adjusted his game to deal with his age and suffered because of it. But that's literally been the last few fights and if you have almost fifty that shouldn't hang over them all imo.

      I think of clinchers as people who did it excessively. Klitschko is a clincher. There was a fighter years ago who was really good named Frankie Liles, he was a clincher. Guys who literally had no interest in developing a game, defensive or offensive, which wasn't at straight arm's length. That's not Mayweather and even recently, he hasn't been that bad.

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      • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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        #63
        Originally posted by Bram
        If you want to just point to the last portion of his career and say that he held too much, that's fine, I don't have an argument against that, but I don't historically consider Mayweather to be a clincher and I'm not his biggest fan. I look back at his career and say that he was a very good inside fighter and that's a large part of the reason that he was successful because he could stand right in front of people and make them miss. That was his defensive genius, not tying someone up every time they got close to him and as he aged and lost some of his physicality that's what he did to adjust. He stopped fighting out of clinches because he wasn't several steps ahead of the competition anymore and he started to initiate them more, as opposed to someone like Roy Jones who never really adjusted his game to deal with his age and suffered because of it. But that's literally been the last few fights and if you have almost fifty that shouldn't hang over them all imo.

        I think of clinchers as people who did it excessively. Klitschko is a clincher. There was a fighter years ago who was really good named Frankie Liles, he was a clincher. Guys who literally had no interest in developing a game, defensive or offensive, which wasn't at straight arm's length. That's not Mayweather and even recently, he hasn't been that bad.
        great post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • ElMeroChingon
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          #64
          whats with all these Mayweather questions and "facts" ?, kid needs his own sticky so he can ask all the Mayweather questions and post all the fun facts he wants.

          It's like that's all he post, cluttering NSB with Mayweather agenda threads.

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          • Lester Tutor
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            #65
            All boxers clinch. It's a defensive move, and boxers usually punchout, or wait for a reaction from the other fighter. When it doesn't get anywhere the ref breaks it or asks them to break. Common sense tells you that boxing commentators have seen clinching since the advent of the sport. Have they complained about nobody would watch boxing for the sheer fact that that no one wants to hear commentators cry about it.

            Louis, Schmeling, Ali, Foreman, Duran, Tyson.

            Regarding Floyd, he schools other boxers so what would it matter that he clinches?

            How about a thread, "Who clinches(d) more, Floyd or Vlad?"

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