i didn't see the peter and klitschko fight.

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  • juggernautburn
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    #1

    i didn't see the peter and klitschko fight.

    but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands.
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    #2
    Originally posted by juggernautburn
    but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands.
    He held less than Ruiz. Wlad wont need to hold Byrd.

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      #3
      Originally posted by juggernautburn
      but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands.
      no, he wasnt holding like all ya people talking, he was doing it wisely...

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        #4
        I would've liked to see less holding and more combinations, which is what you will see against Turd

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          #5
          Originally posted by juggernautburn
          but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands.
          He was holding a lot. Like pretty much whenever Peter got close. I don't think that Wlad needed to do that. Peter is a very limited fighter. Wlad could have controlled that fight from the outside with his jab. Peter knocked Wlad down with akward, clubbing punches. But I was very suprised that Wlad was not even given a warning for clinches.

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            #6
            He did to Peter same thing that Lewis did to Mike Tyson. Thats what you have to do against a slugger, but his holding didn't make the fight boring or anything like Ruiz does.

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              #7
              Originally posted by juggernautburn
              but how much did wladimir actually hold peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much wladimir was holding. if this is wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands.
              well,,,he threw more than double the amount of punches as peter so he obviosly did more punching than he did holding

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                #8
                he held every time he was hit .....but it was a smart move a lot like Lewis vs Tyson

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Derranged
                  He held less than Ruiz. Wlad wont need to hold Byrd.

                  ....The only holding surrounding that fight will be the need for Chris's wife or Daddy to hold him after he gets KTFO.

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                  • mokele
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                    he held way too much for me

                    Originally posted by juggernautburn
                    but how much did Wladimir actually hold Peter in that fight? i saw the chris byrd interview on this site and they were saying it was ridiculous of how much Wladimir was holding. if this is Wladimir's style then we might have a new ruiz on our hands.
                    Wladdy holds in a different manner than Ruiz. For starters, Wladdy is now trained by Emanuel Steward, who has been coaching his tall fighters to tie up inside ever since the mid 1980s or earlier. Steward teaches his tall outside boxers to use their jab, stick and move, use their right hand, and tie up as soon as a shorter opponents gets close enough to land a big shot. Ruiz holds right after landing a shot, usually a jab. They both bend the rules quite a bit, but they hold in a different way.

                    I was very disappointed that Wladdy wasn't quickly warned for excessive holding during the Peter fight. It would have made all the difference in the world. Sam Peter wasn't fast enough to catch Wladdy that often, maybe only 7 or 8 times per round, so if Wladdy held him every time Peter trapped him on the ropes, Sam Peter had to get lucky to win. This is the type of fight in which an active referee could have made a big difference.

                    Will Wladdy hold much against Byrd? Not nearly as much as he did against Sam Peter. Byrd doesn't hit hard enough to scare Wladdy so he will only tie up inside a few times each round, maybe 3 or 4, instead of 7 to 10 times like against Peter.

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