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  • imperial1
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tomasio
    You forget De La Hoya & other fighters have also used IV before a fight & NSAC already cleared that it is NOT illegal to take an IV before a fight & ¿Pacquiao hurt? Funny how 2 & 3 days before the fight videos of Pac hitting the speed bag, throwing 150 punches in 3 min on the heavy bag & throwing 7 & 8 punch combinations on the mitts were all over the web & the day of the fight when he was filling out the release form he checked "NO" on the question that said "¿Have you had any present or past injuries on your hands, elbows or SHOULDERS that could affect you in any manner? & during the fight he was swinging both arms fine & at NO point did Roach ask him how was his shoulder & only kept telling Pac to throw more punches(doesn't sound like a fighter that came in with a shoulder injury) Then he claimed it was a torn rotator cuff & refused treatment yet now Pacquiao claims he is completely healed by simply going the beach, yes he claims SEA WATER healed him.. Who ever believe's this S H I T by Pac, will believe anything..


    Look at this nonsense right here trying to compare other guys to fraud !

    The NSAC did not clear Floyd they are covering up for him the amount of fluid he took was against the WADA code and on top of that he had no logical medical,excuse for that amount of fluid or even any logical reason for a TUE..

    But you want to talk about Pac's credibility lmao !! Hard Work IV medication !!

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    • jwalkr
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      #22
      Yeh, one way or another. LOL. Hope he has plenty of refreshments at the house to keep him hydrated.

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      • Mr. Punch-Out!!
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        #23
        I think Floyd using IVs before the Pacquiao fight is more talked about than his supposed last bout with Berto.

        Is that the way he really wants to go out? With his whole legacy stained, including the biggest fight of his career? Because right now, I'd say he's stuck in a big situation. He could stay retired and let questions around him grow until the truth comes out...or he can come back for a rematch against Pacquiao, in which he would basically be confirming that the stories are true about him.

        Either way, it doesn't matter to me. He was never the "face" of boxing anyway (like some people like to claim) and nobody needs to take after him. They just need to be themselves.
        Last edited by Mr. Punch-Out!!; 09-23-2015, 12:33 PM.

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #24
          Originally posted by Rath
          this thread is not supposed to be this way.

          Rath ruined it for us Floyd fans boo hooo hooo
          no no, you truly have not

          very funny thread so far

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          • Calabis
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            #25
            Originally posted by Rath
            was he caught?
            did he applied for TUE?

            Try again

            why are those great boxers like the golden boy and TBE only uses IV when they fought Pac?

            just wondering

            funny thing was it was both of them who accused Pac of PED use, coincidence?
            Yes he was caught, but since u sissys only hold a different standard for Mayweather it was ok..

            “Before the fight started. When he gained two pounds [from 145 to 147] between the weigh-in and fight time.” In an earlier point in the interview, Roach said: “I saw the IV in his arm, I saw the IV marks, it was fresh tape, they hydrated him too late, they waited too long to hydrate him. It was nothing illegal… The thing was, they couldn’t get anything into his system… Nobody let him build his body back up. They did it to themselves.”

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              #26
              Originally posted by Calabis
              Yes he was caught, but since u sissys only hold a different standard for Mayweather it was ok..

              “Before the fight started. When he gained two pounds [from 145 to 147] between the weigh-in and fight time.” In an earlier point in the interview, Roach said: “I saw the IV in his arm, I saw the IV marks, it was fresh tape, they hydrated him too late, they waited too long to hydrate him. It was nothing illegal… The thing was, they couldn’t get anything into his system… Nobody let him build his body back up. They did it to themselves.”
              You're right, but the writing was on the wall when Oscar weighed in at 145 two weeks prior to the fight.

              Freddie Roach is right, they did it to themselves..... but it was all because of an extremely harsh unprecedented contractual penalty, a penalty that was included by Roach.

              Not sure what the issue was with Mayweather, and I am not a medical expert..... but the situation with Hoya definitely seems to be more of a medical emergency than the situation with Mayweather.

              I am not keeping up with the IV thing, I have moved on from that "issue", or "non-issue", depending on how you look at it..... but it sounds like USADA need to release a public statement explaining exactly why Mayweather needed the IV, although I understand if releasing that information would breech privacy acts with Mayweather.

              USADA should have the right to rule as they see fit, seeing that they are the agreed upon agency and the supposed gold standard..... but they need to be transparent and consistent, I think that is what most folks appear to be complaining about.

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              • Rath
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                #27
                Originally posted by Calabis
                Yes he was caught, but since u sissys only hold a different standard for Mayweather it was ok..

                “Before the fight started. When he gained two pounds [from 145 to 147] between the weigh-in and fight time.” In an earlier point in the interview, Roach said: “I saw the IV in his arm, I saw the IV marks, it was fresh tape, they hydrated him too late, they waited too long to hydrate him. It was nothing illegal… The thing was, they couldn’t get anything into his system… Nobody let him build his body back up. They did it to themselves.”
                you mean the commission overseeing the doping test caught Oscar with an IV in his veins?

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                • Rath
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                  #28
                  just for the sake of argument oscar was caught by the commission in his house with an IV on his veins,

                  why is it that those two guys who accused Pac of PED use were the once caught with IV on their veins.

                  and both coincidentally got dehydrated fighting a 5 loss one dimensional fighter

                  IV believe oscar was but Floyd?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Rath
                    you mean the commission overseeing the doping test caught Oscar with an IV in his veins?
                    No, there was no additional drug testing for that fight.

                    The IV marks were noticed by Freddie Roach.

                    Originally posted by Rath
                    just for the sake of argument oscar was caught by the commission in his house with an IV on his veins,

                    why is it that those two guys who accused Pac of PED use were the once caught with IV on their veins.

                    and both coincidentally got dehydrated fighting a 5 loss one dimensional fighter

                    IV believe oscar was but Floyd?
                    I dont get your point ?

                    Oscar was obviously very dehydrated.

                    That fact is well-documented, and has been confirmed by Roach himself.

                    Why are you insinuating that Oscar did something illegal ?

                    Isn't your issue with Mayweather, the fact that USADA have not provided you with a satisfactory explanation as to why Mayweather required the IV in the first place?..... because it is obvious why Oscar needed it.

                    Freddie did not object to the IV, he stated that " they left it too late "

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                      #30
                      I don't know how you can fairly compare Floyd's current physical condition and ring performance with Archie Moore at Floyd's age. Floyd fought a small fraction of the fights Archie Moore had been in and was able to pick and choose his opponents, gloves, ref, judges, weight, etc, etc.
                      Archie Moore had to fight as often as possible just to make ends meet. Floyd's legacy will never, ever be anywhere near that of the great Archie Moore's.

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