Floyd Mayweather-The Beginning,The Rise & The Reign

[El-blanco]

Ali and Leonard didn't have the greatest K ratios either and they are considered top ten fighters. And both those guys lost to guys they should have been able to beat the first time.

It's not just about ko's. If you think there's similarities between ali, and Floyd because of their ko ratio, then I don't know what to say.

[Johnwoo8686]

It's not just about ko's. If you think there's similarities between ali, and Floyd because of their ko ratio, then I don't know what to say.

You talked about a defensive first, light puncher being considered one of the greatest ever also being unlikely and pointed I out a guy who is considered by many to be the greatest heavyweight ever despite not being a huge puncher.

[El-blanco]

You talked about a defensive first, light puncher being considered one of the greatest ever also being unlikely and pointed I out a guy who is considered by many to be the greatest heavyweight ever despite not being a huge puncher.

Yeah but his fights had drama and Ali would mix it up when he had to. Did you see Floyd's attempt at exchanging against berto? He threw like three punches while retreating. Aside from exceptional footwork I don't think they fight anything remotely similar. Ali is revered because he fought fearlessly, people don't look at Floyd like that, and never will.

[Spoon23]

I think you meant, in The beginning, the rise, and the FALL.

[Johnwoo8686]

Yeah but his fights had drama and Ali would mix it up when he had to. Did you see Floyd's attempt at exchanging against berto? He threw like three punches while retreating. Aside from exceptional footwork I don't think they fight anything remotely similar. Ali is revered because he fought fearlessly, people don't look at Floyd like that, and never will.

You really should watch Floyds fight against Phillip Ndou or Diego Corrales or Gatti. Floyd has had several compelling fights and Ali did have his share of boring fights. Ali's most dramatic fights were the ones were he took an enormous amount of punishment I.E. the Thrilla in Manilla. Yes Ali is more revered because his legacy is tied to things outside of boxing but as a boxer alone I think Floyd hold's up with some of the best fighters from the past days. He is even more technically proficient than Ali was.

[El-blanco]

You really should watch Floyds fight against Phillip Ndou or Diego Corrales or Gatti. Floyd has had several compelling fights and Ali did have his share of boring fights. Ali's most dramatic fights were the ones were he took an enormous amount of punishment I.E. the Thrilla in Manilla. Yes Ali is more revered because his legacy is tied to things outside of boxing but as a boxer alone I think Floyd hold's up with some of the best fighters from the past days. He is even more technically proficient than Ali was.

Lol I'm assuming I'm older than you, I've been watching Floyd since the 90's. He's had a few compelling fights when he was younger. You're referencing fights from over ten years ago. Ali is revered, along with those outside issues, because he has "moments" in fights that people will never forget. Knocking out foreman, embarrassing Liston, etc. Floyd had a chance to have a "moment" and he chose, along with manny, to stink the joint out.

[Johnwoo8686]

Lol I'm assuming I'm older than you, I've been watching Floyd since the 90's. He's had a few compelling fights when he was younger. You're referencing fights from over ten years ago. Ali is revered, along with those outside issues, because he has "moments" in fights that people will never forget. Knocking out foreman, embarrassing Liston, etc. Floyd had a chance to have a "moment" and he chose, along with manny, to stink the joint out.

The irony of this statement is hilarious. You point out that I reference fights that happened over ten years ago but in your very next statement you reference fights that happened over 40 years ago Floyd critics are so warped lol.

[El-blanco]

The irony of this statement is hilarious. You point out that I reference fights that happened over ten years ago but in your very next statement you reference fights that happened over 40 years ago Floyd critics are so warped lol.

You're clearly an idiot. Ali doesn't fight anymore ******. I'm talking about his overall career. Floyd up until last week still fought, and for the last ten years has been a bore. Do you not see the difference. Lol unbelievably ******.

[Johnwoo8686]

You're clearly an idiot. Ali doesn't fight anymore ******. I'm talking about his overall career. Floyd up until last week still fought, and for the last ten years has been a bore. Do you not see the difference. Lol unbelievably ******.

You resort to name calling when I just pointed to the ******ity of your statement. I know that must have hurt. Ali in the last few years of his career was nothing impressive either. When people talk about his heyday it was close to ten years before he retired. With the exception of the Foreman and third Frazier fight, people reference his career before his ban from boxing. Try again.

[ADP02]

.... the hug, the fall, the TUE, the IV and the PEDs