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  • ADP02
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    #441
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    So you're saying there was a medical emergency? Team Floyd disagree:

    "You know my urine was dark, extremely dark, darker than normal. That could be from overworking, extremely dark," Mayweather said. Advisor and Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe then chimed in.

    "A lot of times what happens is that when you work, you become dehydrated. It's not that you're struggling to make weight, it's that he pushes so hard. And you gotta remember he's going down through the drug testing – so he's working out, having to give blood taken, give urine and do all this, and also with preparing for a fight. So it's nothing out of the ordinary."
    That is what Floyd fans have been avoiding. What Floyd and Ellerbe said. Plus which point in time this IV was given.


    The other day, my urine was darker than usual. Maybe I needed an IV too. Oh but wait, it was longer than 10 days that I last gave blood. Never mind.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #442
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      That Usada violated their rules to grant the guy that hired them that Tue for a masking agent.
      According to?

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      • b00g13man
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        #443
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Mayweather juicing shouldn't shock anyone but unfortunately, this doesn't look like the saga that will do him in.
        The funny thing is as a fan, I actually do believe he has dabbled in a little something.

        This however isn't what they want it to be.

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        • HeroBando
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          #444
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          According to?
          See link to Usada website on previous page

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          • IMDAZED
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            #445
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            See link to Usada website on previous page
            I did. And read the 25-pg report too. Go on.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #446
              Originally posted by b00g13man
              The funny thing is as a fan, I actually do believe he has dabbled in a little something.

              This however isn't what they want it to be.
              Agree on both counts.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #447
                Originally posted by ADP02
                but a rational person would take the below points into consideration.


                So again, which point below are you in disagreement with because this is what occurred prior to Floyd's IV?
                - Floyd can make weight EASILY. FACT
                - Floyd was tapering off his workouts BEFORE the weigh in. Nothing extraneous. Important: No conflicts with straining due to having to make weight. FACT
                - Floyd did not give blood for 10 days. FACT
                - Urine can't drain you. FACT
                - Nobody mentioned that Floyd looked quite dehydrated or drained during the weighins. Floyd fans especially thought he looked like he was in great shape. FACT


                Again, as I said above, nobody mentioned this until they needed to protect their hero Floyd. Actually the opposite was being said!!!


                Finally, one thing that both sides have agreed on over the years about Floyd is that he always comes to a fight well conditioned. While others struggled for various reasons, Floyd has admitted that his experience in this area is what sets him apart. Now, only after we hear this excuse from Floyd, Floyd fans say otherwise? That is not a rational person but someone who needs to protect their hero, Floyd.


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                And again just like I said. When you bring up rational points others keep backing up & bringing up **** that they can't know & fail to counter those real rational points brought forth.

                The fact is most mfers here knew f#ck all about dehydration or the symptoms of dehydration last week & now this week half of this forum can diagnosis dehydration or not via looking at a guy lmfao. And even suggest cures ("drink a glass of water" lol).

                The reality is a medical professional deemed an IV necessary. He has distinct advantages over most here in that he's been trained to help patients, seemingly would have diagnosed dehydration before & a big advantage for this last one, he was actually in Floyd presence to diagnose it. He wasn't just looking at pictures of Floyd or watching the weigh in to yay or nay this dehydration thing. I trust that guys opinion over some knuckleheads who didn't see a problem with 750ml's worth of IV's being given to Floyd in May & still seem to think dehydration is all about how many lbs you've lost recently.

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                • Lester Tutor
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                  #448
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  nal deemed an IV necessary. He has distinct advantages over most here in that he's been trained to help patients, seemingly would have diagnosed dehydration before & a big advantage for this last one, he was actually in Floyd presence to diagnose it. He wasn't just looking at pictures of Floyd or watching the weigh in to yay or nay this dehydration thing. I trust that guys opinion over some knuckleheads who didn't see a problem with 750ml's worth of IV's being given to Floyd in May & still seem to think dehydration is all about how many lbs you've lost recently.
                  What's funnier is this... it's so logical to have a sports writer wind people up when Top Rank - the actual promoters - were the first and foremost to be aware of the ''concrete evidence'' once the TUE was approved. I guess Top Rank never bothered with it and faxed a copy to Hauser with a phone call from Arum ''yo, Hausah! here's a copy of our contracts, we don't get it, see what fun you can do with it. I mean you're hired with HBO, they love Floyd like me, and you're the lead person to induct members into the BWAA, trust me, people will always believe you! Please we need money to cover Pac's lawsuits, we didn't make any money off the fight...stir up controversy, please Hausah!''

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #449
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I did. And read the 25-pg report too. Go on.
                    They even bolded it for you. Straightforward, no retroactive Tue for recovery purposes, it takes a medical emergency.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #450
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      They even bolded it for you. Straightforward, no retroactive Tue for recovery purposes, it takes a medical emergency.
                      And now what?

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