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  • Divine Hammer
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    #61
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    I think a lot of people don't understand the facts of this. USADA won't sue Hauser because if you read his article carefully he never actually accuses anyone of anything. He's asking questions that he wants answers to, but at the same time implies what he feels.

    As far as Mayweather masking anything, he was tested by USADA BEFORE and AFTER the IV was administered. Also, he was random testing throughout camp so that's really a non-issue here. Hauser is already taking the focus off Mayweather and placing it on USADA by saying in his statement "this goes far beyond Mayweather."

    Also, the fight agreement between Mayweather and Pacquiao allowed "BOTH" of them to get retroactive TUEs. Keep in mind USADA AGREED to Pacquiao getting his shot and the medication for that shoulder on the day of the fight. It was the NSAC that refused to let him do it.
    u do know that lance armstrong used saline injections to cheat hundreds of tests right??? so this "he was tested BEFORE!!!! AND AFTER!!!!" is a dumb argument. it really is. sorry. floyd was only caught this one time (most likely he was using iv therapy all throughout camp to mask illegal substance abuse). don't believe the usada damage control pls.

    and this DOES GO BEYOND MAYWEATHER. THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH CORRUPTION AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. u do understand that USADA is apparently the GOLD STANDARD of testing in the US right????? tests many olympic athletes right????

    can we all use our heads pls? this is all very simple to understand. it's actually kind of disgusting that a higher up in boxingscene would take a stance on this. defending one said while discrediting the other.
    Last edited by Divine Hammer; 09-17-2015, 03:07 PM.

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    • MrRolltide91
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      #62
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      If it's that simple where you can take it at night and it's gone by morning, then why test at all? Flushing evidence but being tested before he flushes? What is there to flush if you say it can be gone by morning?

      I know the facts of the entire case and another writer with no dog in the fight is going to write a crushing piece for a major outlet. Trust me there is so much being left out in all of this.

      Interesting

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      • Straightener
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        #63
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        If it's that simple where you can take it at night and it's gone by morning, then why test at all? Flushing evidence but being tested before he flushes? What is there to flush if you say it can be gone by morning?

        I know the facts of the entire case and another writer with no dog in the fight is going to write a crushing piece for a major outlet. Trust me there is so much being left out in all of this.
        Why the need for the IV then bpp ?

        It doesn't make sense

        What's your honest opinion

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        • Hype job
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          #64
          Irrespective of the technicalities the 750ml IV rehydration when he supposedly rehydrates 3 to 4 pounds max tells me the writings on the wall, it's clear he's diluting his blood levels and blood doped before the fight.

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            #65
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
            I think a lot of people don't understand the facts of this. USADA won't sue Hauser because if you read his article carefully he never actually accuses anyone of anything. He's asking questions that he wants answers to, but at the same time implies what he feels.

            As far as Mayweather masking anything, he was tested by USADA BEFORE and AFTER the IV was administered. Also, he was random testing throughout camp so that's really a non-issue here. Hauser is already taking the focus off Mayweather and placing it on USADA by saying in his statement "this goes far beyond Mayweather."

            Also, the fight agreement between Mayweather and Pacquiao allowed "BOTH" of them to get retroactive TUEs. Keep in mind USADA AGREED to Pacquiao getting his shot and the medication for that shoulder on the day of the fight. It was the NSAC that refused to let him do it.
            That's pretty much it. It boggles the mind how difficult it is for some posters to take a step back and apply some basic logic and reasoning.

            Does the hate run that deep?

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            • Fetta
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              #66
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              If it's that simple where you can take it at night and it's gone by morning, then why test at all? Flushing evidence but being tested before he flushes? What is there to flush if you say it can be gone by morning?

              I know the facts of the entire case and another writer with no dog in the fight is going to write a crushing piece for a major outlet. Trust me there is so much being left out in all of this.
              Hopefully you post the article by the other writer so they can say hes lying and Floyd paid him off too.

              Or it might say hes guilty

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              • SplitSecond
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                #67
                Originally posted by lfc19titles
                are you REALLY going to go with this excuse for floyd? really? come on man, at least try to show you are smart....this is a man who was 151 pounds 3 weeks before the fight ffs and claims he walks around 147-150.

                No way, answer the ped point now, if pac did this, you would be all over this was ped abusing, admit it.

                check and mate, made you look like a ****** again and all you can do is change the topic like a typical floyd fan, look at frodo above you posting, he did the same

                why did floyd take 14 times the limit of a substance that masks peds? why did he do the same strategy armstrong used to mask drugs if he is innocent?

                why did he pay usada over 100k lol, why are they all ignoring the fact he took ped masking substance?
                According to Conte Floyd only took 1 and a half lb's of fluid, he really did next to nothing considering he was supposedly so dehydrated he required an IV, and like Hauser mentions, if there was a DCO with Mayweather all day why not periodic intake of water to hydrate?

                And I'm still wondering why the retroactive TUE came so late, surely if your opponent is getting an exemption for an otherwise illegal procedure/drug you'd like to be informed preferably before you fight him. Although I understand USADA was under no obligation to grant the TUE(and thus inform the other parties) within a time limit.
                Last edited by SplitSecond; 09-17-2015, 03:10 PM.

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                • Divine Hammer
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  According to Conte Floyd only took 1 and a half lb's of fluid, he really did next to nothing considering he was supposedly so dehydrated he required an IV, and like Hauser mentions, if there was a DCO with Mayweather all day why not periodic intake of water to hydrate?

                  And I'm still wondering why the retroactive TUE came so late, surely if your opponent is getting an exemption for an otherwise illegal procedure/drug you'd like to be informed preferably before you fight him.
                  so then why did he need it in teh first place??? why didn't usada tell him to just drink liquids???? give me a break. it's all about masking. 750 ml in one sitting is more than enough to mask whatever illegal substance in ur blood and conte says this as well. or is he lying about that now????????

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    According to Conte Floyd only took 1 and a half lb's of fluid, he really did next to nothing considering he was supposedly so dehydrated he required an IV, and like Hauser mentions, if there was a DCO with Mayweather all day why not periodic intake of water to hydrate?

                    And I'm still wondering why the retroactive TUE came so late, surely if your opponent is getting an exemption for an otherwise illegal procedure/drug you'd like to be informed preferably before you fight him.
                    If a paramedic was called, I'd guess he was severely dehydrated, making the IV the most suitable method of rehydration.

                    TUEs in general have to be applied for 21-28 days prior to the use of the prohibited drug/method, implying the approval process can take that long. A TUE applied for on May 1st being approved on May 21st supports that.

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                    • Divine Hammer
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ukalltheway
                      Why the need for the IV then bpp ?

                      It doesn't make sense

                      What's your honest opinion
                      no reason AT ALL.

                      it amazes me how much defending and deflection there is here. where all dying from smoke inhalation and u have people saying THERE IS NO SMOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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