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  • IR0NFIST
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    #201
    Originally posted by damian War
    Since the turds are all of the sudden medical experts.. let me entertain them.. lets say Floyd was in fact using PEDS all these years.. then please tell me, how did the cheating helped him in the ring? We know Floyd has no knockout power, so did the PEDS help him shoulder roll better? ..
    There are a variety of PEDs that don't necessarily translate into punching power. For instance, EPO boosts endurance and Adderall improves concentration and focus. Endurance and focus are two characteristics that Floyd is well known for inside of the ring.

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    • Teetotaler
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      #202
      The only reasonable boxing aficinados.


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      • Eff Pandas
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        #203
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
        Again, I find it odd that anti Floyd fans don't realize that the TEU and IV conditions were already disclosed to the public back in late May by sports writers. Where is the logic from Hauser's expertise to not continue Kevin Iole's findings of his late May article? Or is it more professional to let the public know three months later, or rather remind the public two days prior to the fight, to say it all over again?

        That doesn't make any sense. Lol. That's like saying we know who the killer is, but lets not tell the police until 3 months later, even though the victims also know that the others know. Lol
        In Hauser's defense he's kinda a hack at this point so it mighta took him nearly 4 months to complete the article.

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        • Cinci Champ
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          #204
          lol hauser is trying way to hard hes pulling up the most random **** even if the circumstances dont relate to what happened with mayweather.

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          • IR0NFIST
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            #205
            Originally posted by Vicious.
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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62NcbK6_SHA

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            • DoktorSleepless
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              #206
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              As far as Mayweather masking anything, he was tested by USADA BEFORE and AFTER the IV was administered.
              It wasn't exactly like this. The impression people are getting is that they collected two full samples, and tested both for the sake of comparison. What actually happened is they only collected a single sample. USADA tested Mayweather twice, but both were only "partial samples." They monitored him "until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather." What they did was combine the before and after samples into a single full sample. (The USADA statement doesn't say they combined the samples specifically, but you can infer it from the the quotes)

              This isn't describing the Mayweather's case specifically, but here's the procedure for what happens when a partial sample is collected.

              The Athlete's first attempt to provide a sample produced less than the minimum requirement of 90ml of urine (this is known as a "partial sample"). The Athlete therefore placed the collection vessel on the floor, adjusted her clothes and placed the cover on the container. She was then told to wait in the waiting room. At this point, the DCOA was required to deal with the Athlete's partial sample in accordance with Annex F of the WADA International Standards of Testing ("IST") and the partial sample collection procedure contained in the 2011 IAAF AntiDoping Regulations (the "2011 Regulations"). CAS 2014/A/3487

              The relevant provisions of Annex F and the 2011 Regulations are set out in detail below (see paragraphs 72 and 82-83). In short, the Regulations require an athlete who has provided a partial sample to select special partial sample collection equipment. Having done so, the athlete should then be instructed to open the relevant equipment, pour the partial sample into the container and seal it as directed by the DCOA. The DCOA should then verify, in full view of the athlete, that the container has been properly sealed. While waiting to provide an additional sample, the athlete should remain under continuous observation and be given the opportunity to hydrate. Once the athlete is able to provide an additional sample, they should be provided with a fresh collection vessel and instructed to provide a sample into that container. Once sufficient urine has been collected, the DCO and athlete should check the integrity of the seal on the partial sample vessel containing the first insufficient sample. Any irregularity in that seal should be recorded. The DCO must then direct the athlete to break the seal to that container and to combine the samples.
              I can't for the love of god remember the link to the article I read yesterday, but the description of the scene was that Mayweather had trouble pissing the first time. So it's possible the first partial sample (the before IV sample) was only a few drops of piss. And the second partial sample made up the bulk of the sample.

              According to the USADA statement, Mayweather was informed he was being tested at 1:45 PM. The testing process was not finished until 8:15 PM. Possibly enough time for the IV to work its magic. (If there was magic)
              Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 09-17-2015, 06:06 PM.

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              • texasboi15
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                #207
                Why is it not the hot topic EVERYDAY on Fox Sports ESPN Mike and Mike Skip Bayless Stephen a Dan Patrick Scott Van Pelt (lookin mufckers lol)

                Tell me that?!

                Why is this so called scandal not playing out like DeflateGate did you dumb fcks lol

                I mean we are talking about the highest paid athlete in the world and according to you lame fcks this is such a HUGE indictment against Floyd with incriminating evidence and tarnished legacy and etc etc.

                Oh I know Floyd got everybody in his pocket LOL!!!

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                • QballLobo
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                  #208
                  I still haven't seen any explanation why Floyd needed almost 14 times the amount of fluids that one normally takes for de hydration. Especially when he showed no signs of being drained at the weigh in.
                  During the Lance Armstrong saga they often talked about how he used IV's to flush his system during the tour because he knew when he was going to be tested. Floyd knew he was going to be tested right after the fight.
                  I have no doubt if Floyd is dirty, and right now I am leaning toward the opinion that he is, more and more will come out as people don't have a reason to protect him and the people around him with their hands out stop getting paid when those fight checks stop coming in.

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                    Bro all I see in that hauser report and his rebuttal to usada if,ands,or buts then asking to release his testing history lol it's to funny, then you got misanthropic saying no one around Floyd going snitch on him so he took it upon himself to rat to usada about something he was doing and getting away with, I have seen it all today
                    Kind of ironic that a FIomo is having trouble reading LOL...

                    I clearly said that "What if Floyd was worried about someone snitching on him, so he called up USADA to take the sting out of the IV-cheating... In other words, he'd say..yes I used the IV-solution on the reg but it's OK because USADA granted me a waiver (even though it violates WADA guidelines and Lance Armstrong used the same thing to cheat) and it doesn't violate NSAC rules...

                    Read slowly please lol...
                    Last edited by MisanthropicNY; 09-17-2015, 05:50 PM. Reason: FIomo didn't understand my previous post.

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                    • MisanthropicNY
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by texasboi15
                      Why is it not the hot topic EVERYDAY on Fox Sports ESPN Mike and Mike Skip Bayless Stephen a Dan Patrick Scott Van Pelt (lookin mufckers lol)

                      Tell me that?!

                      Why is this so called scandal not playing out like DeflateGate did you dumb fcks lol

                      I mean we are talking about the highest paid athlete in the world and according to you lame fcks this is such a HUGE indictment against Floyd with incriminating evidence and tarnished legacy and etc etc.

                      Oh I know Floyd got everybody in his pocket LOL!!!
                      Yah because boxing is as important as football

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