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  • IR0NFIST
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    #141
    Originally posted by imperial1
    Did you not read that USADA follows WADA 's protocols and if they do there is no logical explanation as to why he was 1 granted a TUE when they didn't have the authority to grant it and 2 why he needed 750 ml of fluid ..If you can't see the smoking gun here than lets just agree to disagree
    That kid is a special kind of fl0mo, don't waste your time on him.

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    • GTTofAK
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      #142
      Originally posted by ryedes
      he left this part out

      If a non-prohibited substance is infused or injected without a concurrent hospital
      admission, surgical procedure or clinical investigation; a TUE must be submitted
      for this Prohibited Method if more than 50 mL of fluid per a 6-hour period is
      infused or injected
      Yeah they allow you to get an emergency IV if your are catatonic. However, the use if IV's to treat mild to moderate dehydration is expressly prohibited.

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      • youbeight
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        #143
        Originally posted by GTTofAK
        Show me where it says that?

        The WADA rules for granting a TUE explicitly forbid a TUE to be granted for IV treatment of moderate dehydration.




        You have no ****ing argument.
        right here:

        If a non-prohibited substance is infused or injected without a concurrent hospital
        admission, surgical procedure or clinical investigation; a TUE must be submitted
        for this Prohibited Method if more than 50 mL of fluid per a 6-hour period is
        infused or injected

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        • youbeight
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          #144
          Originally posted by GTTofAK
          Yeah they allow you to get an emergency IV if your are catatonic. However, the use if IV's to treat mild to moderate dehydration is expressly prohibited.
          nope the reasons for it follow because of:

          In sports with weight classifications, athletes may be encouraged to undertake
          significant, accelerated weight loss to qualify for a competition and then use IV
          infusion to rapidly rehydrate. This practice invokes issues of athlete health and
          safety.

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          • GTTofAK
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            #145
            Originally posted by doom_specialist
            Find me the part of that where it says salt water and vitamins are prohibited, and/or needs NSAC approval.
            It doesn't need to specifically say vitamins or saline. All injections are prohibited without approval. Its a blanket ban. It doesn't matter what Floyd was injecting.

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            • doom_specialist
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              #146
              Originally posted by imperial1
              50 ml is a WADA restrictions that USADa follows



              Literally nothing to see here yeah ok he needed 750 ml to rehydrated from losing 3 lbs .
              So we're ignoring that USADA's DCO observed Mayweather's condition and found that he needed an IV?

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              • GTTofAK
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                #147
                Originally posted by ryedes
                nope the reasons for it follow because of:

                In sports with weight classifications, athletes may be encouraged to undertake significant, accelerated weight loss to qualify for a competition and then use IV infusion to rapidly rehydrate. This practice invokes issues of athlete health and safety.
                That is a reason not the only reason. For a TUE to be granted you have to show

                3. Medical best practice treatment

                WADA has found no evidence that an IV is medical best practice treatment for the treatment of mild to moderate dehydration.

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                • doom_specialist
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by GTTofAK
                  It doesn't need to specifically say vitamins or saline. All injections are prohibited without approval. Its a blanket ban. It doesn't matter what Floyd was injecting.
                  "Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission, including, but not limited to, the drugs or injections listed in subsection 2"

                  No it's not. There's a full subsection that notes what is and is not allowed to be injected into you. Bob Bennett has already spoken on this. Nothing in the entire NAC Chapter 467 says anything about needing NAC approval for injections unless you're shooting up something that they have prohibited. Salt water and vitamins are not prohibited.

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                  • GTTofAK
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by doom_specialist
                    So we're ignoring that USADA's DCO observed Mayweather's condition and found that he needed an IV?
                    Yes because USADA's DCO obviously ignored WADA's rules. If that is even true USADA has lied to the press in the past. IV treatment for mild to moderate dehydration is not allowed under WADA.

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                    • GTTofAK
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by doom_specialist
                      "Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission, including, but not limited to, the drugs or injections listed in subsection 2".
                      "including, but not limited to" you absolute ****ing moron.

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