Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Still Angry, Wants Justice For Mayweather IV

[ganthet]

Yes it is. Shoots so many holes in these idiots acting like this isnt known behavior for PED use. Floyd for taking 10x the legal limit, taking it secretly at home for dehydration from the grueling process of cutting maybe 3 pounds in a month. Floyd notorious for being at fighting weight all year long but needs some extra *cough* help with weight? Get the phuck out of here. The dude is doing what Lance was doing and what all the drug experts say is done routinely to beat drug tests. This puts a dark cloud over all his achievements.

Exactly. Only the ******ed Froid **** riders would say that "750ml IV infusion" and "dehydrated" adds up. I haven't even read anyone who needed such a huge amount of infusion. And if ever there was someone who needed to get infused with 750ml at once, I would logically think that whoever that person is, is in a critical situation due to a medical emergency and clinical time constraints and need to be rushed to the hospital ASAP LOL

Hell, even team Froid, NSAC and USADA can't seem to find a willing doctor to falsely justify the need for the 750ml IV treatement. Which is not surprising, because no doctor in their right mind would want to damage their own reputation in front of his peers and the entire world to make such a ******ed claim... no matter how high the price he got offered. I guess I'd ask for a sick leave right now because I'm feeling dehydrated and I need to go to the nearest hospital ASAP for that quick shot of 750ml LMAO!

[bigdunny1]

With FLoyd's style you don't need to be knocking guys out..just need that testosterone to keep your speed in check....

Exactly. Look at how skinny Lance Armstrong was. This idea that since Floyd wasn't knocking people out that is evidence he wasn't cheating on PEDs is bs. Look at Lance and all the cyclists who used PEDs not to get big and strong but to increase endurance and speed. Which is probably why at age 40 when fighters age and get slower Floyd hasn't and why he always has tons of energy the last rounds of his fights. That's where peds would help Floyd and cyclists like Lance Armstrong.

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Exactly. Only the ******ed Froid **** riders would say that "750ml IV infusion" and "dehydrated" adds up. I haven't even read anyone who needed such a huge amount of infusion. And if ever there was someone who needed to get infused with 750ml at once, I would logically think that whoever that person is, is in a critical situation due to a medical emergency and clinical time constraints and need to be rushed to the hospital ASAP LOL

Hell, even team Froid, NSAC and USADA can't seem to find a willing doctor to falsely justify the need for the 750ml IV treatement. Which is not surprising, because no doctor in their right mind would want to damage their own reputation in front of his peers and the entire world to make such a ******ed claim... no matter how high the price he got offered. I guess I'd ask for a sick leave right now because I'm feeling dehydrated and I need to go to the nearest hospital ASAP for that quick shot of 750ml LMAO!

You havent even looked it up you dummy , 750 ml is a low dose , footballers prehyrate with twice that amount , fck you idiots talk some sht .

[Yaconcha]

turning into a "packhan" cry baby.

[ganthet]

You havent even looked it up you dummy , 750 ml is a low dose , footballers prehyrate with twice that amount , fck you idiots talk some sht .

LOL NFL doesn't follow WADAs code and policies you dumbass! So the players can cheat all they want. And about the link you gave regarding the footballers prehydrating in the other thread, you forgot to mention one thing, they prehydrate to PREVENT MUSCLE CRAMPS. Also, they used it to PRE-hydrate, not RE-hydrate. So are you now going to tell me that Froid has a history of muscle cramps? LOL!

Also, LOL at you for even saying that 750ml is a low dose just because some cheating NFL players are using 1.5L. You really are a ******.

Additionally, here is also what you failed to mention in that link that you gave in the other thread:

Currently, there are no published studies describing IV fluid use during the course of an event, at intermission, or after the event as an ergogenic aid.

According to World Anti-Doping Agency regulations, the routine practice of administering IV fluids (>50 mL per 6 hours) to healthy individuals is prohibited. The code states the following in section M2, numeral 2: "Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 mL per 6 hour period are prohibited except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions or clinical investigations." There are numerous sports and governing bodies that are not subject to the World Anti-Doping Agency's jurisdiction, including the National Collegiate Athletic Association and most professional leagues in the United States. The association does not have IV utilization guidelines, nor does it include IV fluids among the current banned substances for sports other than wrestling.73 For National Collegiate Athletic Association wrestling, "artificial means of rehydration (that is, intravenous hydration) are also prohibited to allow participation and use of such is a violation of weight-management rules".

Time allowing, euhydration can be achieved in the vast majority of individuals by drinking and eating normal beverages and meals.29 If rapid recovery from dehydration is desired, one should ingest 1.5 L of fluid for each kilogram of body weight lost. Replacing 150% of body weight loss over 60 minutes has been tolerated without complications.68 Even though the majority of cases of dehydration can be treated via oral consumption, IV treatment of severe dehydration (>7% body weight loss), exertional heat illness, nausea, emesis, or diarrhea, and in those who cannot ingest oral fluids for other reasons, is clinically indicated.2,3,7,23,68 Otherwise, as the American College of Sports Medicine consensus guidelines state, "IV fluids do not provide an advantage over drinking oral fluids and electrolytes."

The tonicity of IV fluid rehydration has been investigated in 8 men in a dehydration protocol (185 minutes with a 4% body weight loss).39 Rehydration was achieved with 0.9% IV normal saline, 0.45% IV normal saline, or 0.45% oral normal saline over the first 45 minutes of a 100-minute rest period with a goal of reducing the deficit to 2%. The subjects then stood for 20 minutes at 36°C, followed by walking at 50% VO2 max for 90 minutes. Neither the tonicity nor mode of hydration resulted in improved speed of rehydration


The hydration routes in acclimated and nonacclimated highly trained cyclists were studied by dehydrating to 4% body weight loss.9 Rehydration occurred to 2% body weight loss with 0.45% oral or IV fluid. A control group received no fluids. Subjects then cycled at 70% VO2 peak to exhaustion in 37°C. No difference was found in exercise time to exhaustion. Plasma volume was better restored during rehydration with IV fluids at preexercise and 5 minutes of exercise. At 15 minutes, there was no difference between IV and oral rehydration

The effect of IV hydration on recovery following marathon running has been studied.54 IV fluids were administered immediately postmarathon to assess time to recovery in 66 participants. The experimental group received 2.5 L of 2.5% glucose/0.45% sodium chloride solution, whereas the placebo group received 100 mL of 0.9% sodium chloride solution. No significant differences between the groups were found for time to recovery, number of days with pain, number of days with stiffness, sleep disturbance, fatigue, rectal temperature, and loss of appetite.

Convincing research to support IV fluid administration prior to competition for performance enhancement, dehydration prevention, or muscle cramp prevention does not exist. Current studies do not support the use of IV fluids for rehydration when an athlete can tolerate oral fluids.

Who's talking sht now **** rider? LMAO! You **** riders are so ****** that you don't even realize that the link you gave will just shoot down your own argument LMAO!!!!!!!!

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LOL NFL doesn't follow WADAs code and policies you dumbass! So the players can cheat all they want. And about the link you gave regarding the footballers prehydrating in the other thread, you forgot to mention one thing, they prehydrate to PREVENT MUSCLE CRAMPS. Also, they used it to PRE-hydrate, not RE-hydrate. So are you now going to tell me that Froid has a history of muscle cramps? LOL!

Also, LOL at you for even saying that 750ml is a low dose just because some cheating NFL players are using 1.5L. You really are a ******.

Additionally, here is also what you failed to mention in that link that you gave in the other thread:



Who's talking sht now **** rider? LMAO! You **** riders are so ****** that you don't even realize that the link you gave will just shoot down your own argument LMAO!!!!!!!!

The use of IV fluid for prehydration is difficult to quantify. Anecdotally, IV hydration is common among some teams. A recent survey of the National Football League teams revealed that 75% (24 of 32) of the teams utilized IV infusion of fluids for prehydration in at least some otherwise healthy individuals.22 The most common reason cited was the prevention of muscle cramps (23 of 24 teams). Of teams that administered IV fluids prior to competing, there was an average of 5 to 7 athletes per team receiving IV infusions.22 Prior to this survey, the use of IV fluid hydration had not been evaluated in other cohorts of athletes.13,22,51.
Timing of IV and the type of fluids utilized prior to competition had not been studied regarding exercise performance. In the National Football League, an average of 1.5 L of normal saline was administered approximately 2.5 hours prior to competition.22 Further research needs to be completed before any recommendation can be made regarding the type of fluids administered to otherwise healthy athlete

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435915/

[aboutfkntime]

A few months ago, when Heredia was spotted at Mayweather gym, every second ****** started spouting that Mayweather was a drug cheat because Heredia was supplying him with undetectable PED's.

Now, apparently Mayweather needs to take an IV to cover it up LOL.

Can someone explain something..... when USADA testers knock on Mayweathers front door, how the fcuk could he possibly manage to fit in a quick IV before the testers make it to his living room.

And what about when the testers call in to the gym ?

Also, didn't the USADA testers actually discover/report the IV use anyway ?

Mayweather has been tested for years, why have they never reported IV marks previously?

Mayweather declared the IV..... so if he has been using continually, why has this not been reported earlier?

What a load of whiney childish rubbish LMFAO

[JRB123]

Look at Lance and all the cyclists who used PEDs not to get big and strong but to increase endurance and speed. Which is probably why at age 40 when fighters age and get slower Floyd hasn't and why he always has tons of energy the last rounds of his fights.

Um, no.

If that's the case, then you would have to question all fighters over 40, including B-Hop.

[bambam182]

pac why are you mad? you did steroids for so long lol.

[ganthet]

The use of IV fluid for prehydration is difficult to quantify. Anecdotally, IV hydration is common among some teams. A recent survey of the National Football League teams revealed that 75% (24 of 32) of the teams utilized IV infusion of fluids for prehydration in at least some otherwise healthy individuals.22 The most common reason cited was the prevention of muscle cramps (23 of 24 teams). Of teams that administered IV fluids prior to competing, there was an average of 5 to 7 athletes per team receiving IV infusions.22 Prior to this survey, the use of IV fluid hydration had not been evaluated in other cohorts of athletes.13,22,51.
Timing of IV and the type of fluids utilized prior to competition had not been studied regarding exercise performance. In the National Football League, an average of 1.5 L of normal saline was administered approximately 2.5 hours prior to competition.22 Further research needs to be completed before any recommendation can be made regarding the type of fluids administered to otherwise healthy athlete

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435915/

LOL what's your point? NFL players are very well known for using PEDs dumbass. That really doesn't remotely even help your argument. And again, the NFL doesn't even follow WADAs rules and policies regarding drug testing, and the players union themselves are the ones blocking that from happening ******. Unless you're saying that Froid should switch his sport to playing in the NFL so that he could use all the IV infusions he wants without the need for TUEs LMAO!

Also, you somehow still failed to see this for whatever reason:

"Currently, there are no published studies describing IV fluid use during the course of an event, at intermission, or after the event as an ergogenic aid."

"Convincing research to support IV fluid administration prior to competition for performance enhancement, dehydration prevention, or muscle cramp prevention does not exist. Current studies do not support the use of IV fluids for rehydration when an athlete can tolerate oral fluids."

It's in this link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435915/

Oh wait, that's also the same exact link that you gave! I wonder how you missed that part LMAO!