Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: No Vindication, Pacquiao Looked Like ****

[b00g13man]

It would be blatantly incriminating if there was no paper trail for them to prove he was tested X number of times as they publicly report; so they have to go through the motions of testing. Duh! Talk about ****** questions.

And was it unannounced? Mayo says they were summoned, invited to make the house call to observe the IV procedure being done, which seems even more shady on top of them just taking urine samples before & after, instead of blood.

So what dollar amount do you expect for them to compromise their integrity? It reminds me of a joke, the punchline being something to the effect, "We already established you're a whore...we're just negotiating the price."

So, what were they being paid to test Morales? I doubt it was $ix figure$. Their integrity is already compromised from the lack of transparency, how much more with the way they're handling the testing?

It's gonna be interesting to see what more shadiness develops.

There'd be a paper trail because they'd make one up. He is paying them after all. Right?

Since they're on the payroll already, why not give him a heads up, so they don't "catch him" red handed?

The whole thing was ****ing silly, and I'm saddened for humanity that anyone paid it attention.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

For Bennet to say FM did nothing illegal and won't be investigated is not unexpected given Floyd's relationship with the NSAC but just a few days ago Bennet was telling us that the IV FM had at his home and USADA'S TUE were "unacceptable" WTF If you are going to cover up it's probably good to have a decent memory, so your not tripping all over yourself.
Some outside agency has to investigate because how can NSAC investigate itself?

That's what the Floyd supporters keep ignoring for some reason.

[ironmt]

To this day, I still can't figure out why Manny needed an anti-inflammatory before the fight. When he claims to have injured himself in the 4th round.

I am sure that you already knew the answer that you are claiming to be seeking. He was hurt In sparring and re injured the shoulder In the fight.

[aboutfkntime]

It seems funny how the people who parrot that party line of testing clean "before and after" the IV infusion conveniently and/or willfully ignore the shadiness of how the USADA, having been paid $ix figure$ for their $ervice in$tead of their u$ual 4 or 5 figure$, would knowingly observe an infusion meant to alter the biological BLOOD VALUES, but merely take URINE samples before & after the IV infusion.

Yeah, right...that makes total sense and doesn't insult our intelligence. Make a summoned house call (per Mayo's tweet) to observe the procedure meant to mask blood values, and just take urine samples instead of blood. And then they write up a retroactive TUE weeks later. LOL. It's shady all around.

I'm still waiting to see the official USADA response/answers to Hauser's rebuttal of Annie Skinner's press release. Almost a week now and the USADA still can't demonstrate transparency with immediate & honest answers to so few direct questions. It must be harder than they thought to manufacture their spin of the truth.

'Nuff said.

Well, fair call.

TBH with you, I am a little bit lost on this one.

I think that this issue is likely a complete non-issue for two reasons.....
1) Mayweathers game will not benefit from PED's
2) Mayweather was tested before/after

I switched off this issue after reading that both USADA and NSAC have released statements confirming that Mayweather did nothing wrong.

I havent kept up with the details since then.

Also, the comments that Mayweather has paid off NSAC and USADA simply cannot be taken seriously. He may have been able to pay off 1 or 2 individuals, but as soon as an issue such as this hits the headlines the truth comes out real fast.

Look you could be right, I certainly hope USADA/NSAC are beyond repute, and I certainly hope they havent bent any rules for Mayweather.

Does the testing process need to be regulated by another body now ?

[SamuraiSam]

There'd be a paper trail because they'd make one up. He is paying them after all. Right?

Since they're on the payroll already, why not give him a heads up, so they don't "catch him" red handed?

The whole thing was ****ing silly, and I'm saddened for humanity that anyone paid it attention.

OMG! C'mon b00g13man, give it up already. You're proving an embarrassment to your team with the ****** questions and rationalizations. For every step forward someone rational and levelheaded takes the argument, you fumble it two or three steps backward. Do you ever stop to wonder how many of your teammates wish to themselves that you'd just sit your ass down on the bench and stfu?

So you really expect the USADA to make it blatantly & incriminatingly clear what they're doing, by following your m.o., making up a paper trail and other activities as you suggest? LOL. They've done well enough so far without your operational genius.

Okay, I'm done. I'll leave your emotionally benched ass to wallow in your sadness.

"...saddened for humanity..." LMFAO!!!

[SamuraiSam]

Well, fair call.

TBH with you, I am a little bit lost on this one.

1. I think that this issue is likely a complete non-issue for two reasons.....
1) Mayweathers game will not benefit from PED's
2) Mayweather was tested before/after

2. I switched off this issue after reading that both USADA and NSAC have released statements confirming that Mayweather did nothing wrong.

I havent kept up with the details since then.

3. Also, the comments that Mayweather has paid off NSAC and USADA simply cannot be taken seriously. He may have been able to pay off 1 or 2 individuals, but as soon as an issue such as this hits the headlines the truth comes out real fast.

Look you could be right, I certainly hope USADA/NSAC are beyond repute, and I certainly hope they havent bent any rules for Mayweather.

4. Does the testing process need to be regulated by another body now ?

1. As someone detailed in another thread, his game WILL benefit by increased endurance and other factors which currently escapes my memory. The benefits sure helped Lance Armstrong's run at titles. PEDs are not just for building muscle and strength. And once again, I question the efficacy of taking urine samples before/after a procedure that's meant to alter the blood values. Why not blood draws before/after?

2. By "switched off" I presume you mean that there's final vindication to your hopes/belief, and no further words or thoughts are needed for you to analyze the situation. You're placing faith in the two organizations as having the final unimpeachable word on the issue. That implies willful denial or willful ignorance of the conflicting words & actions that the two have been caught up in, words & actions which can't help but invite questions about their integrity and/or bias...questions that would be asked if one weren't switched off on further pursuit of truth.

3. Of course the NSAC isn't paid. They're not supposed to be paid. They're the state agency tasked to regulate the sport in Nevada (which greatly benefits monetarily/economically whenever guess who fights?). I never said or implied the NSAC were paid.

But the private, for profit agency tasked with carrying out WADA's regulations IS paid for their service. And the "gold standard" of testing was paid handsomely by TMT...more figures than their standard take for testing on other cards/promotions. "The best testing agency money can buy" as someone humorously & literally put it.

4. Now that's a great question...one which I've seen numerous writers & bloggers ponder, and which is the basis for this ****storm started by Thomas Hauser. My personal opinion is...YES. USADA has lost credibility. A lot of people don't know this, but their name is deceptive. They are a private, for profit organization, and the first two letters in their acronym gives the illusion that they are an official "United States" created organization. They're not.

In briefly generalized terms, I see two options. Either the private/for profit organizations become more regulated and accountable under strict governmental oversight, or the government itself establishes an official testing organization.

I'm too tired to go into more detailed analysis on the subject, and I have other business to take care of, so I have to log off for now.

Peace out.

[b00g13man]

OMG! C'mon b00g13man, give it up already. You're proving an embarrassment to your team with the ****** questions and rationalizations. For every step forward someone rational and levelheaded takes the argument, you fumble it two or three steps backward. Do you ever stop to wonder how many of your teammates wish to themselves that you'd just sit your ass down on the bench and stfu?

So you really expect the USADA to make it blatantly & incriminatingly clear what they're doing, by following your m.o., making up a paper trail and other activities as you suggest? LOL. They've done well enough so far without your operational genius.

Okay, I'm done. I'll leave your emotionally benched ass to wallow in your sadness.

"...saddened for humanity..." LMFAO!!!

Loool. I take it you don't have an answer then.

What you don't get it I actually believe every professional athlete (including Floyd) is on drugs. This however is a non-story.

[spongebob185]

there was no violation you dumbass pacquiao fan. manny has had plenty if IV's himself. he decided to take a shot at mayweather because he's still butt hurt from getting his ass whoopped. he's one dimensional with speed and power but got exposed to the sweet science of boxing. GTFO.

getting his ass whoopped? One dimensional? Every fuc*ing youtube replay analysis shows that Manny have beaten Floyd in his own game. Not a single clean punch from Floyd, dude... not a single clean punch.

[aboutfkntime]

1. As someone detailed in another thread, his game WILL benefit by increased endurance and other factors which currently escapes my memory. The benefits sure helped Lance Armstrong's run at titles. PEDs are not just for building muscle and strength. And once again, I question the efficacy of taking urine samples before/after a procedure that's meant to alter the blood values. Why not blood draws before/after?

2. By "switched off" I presume you mean that there's final vindication to your hopes/belief, and no further words or thoughts are needed for you to analyze the situation. You're placing faith in the two organizations as having the final unimpeachable word on the issue. That implies willful denial or willful ignorance of the conflicting words & actions that the two have been caught up in, words & actions which can't help but invite questions about their integrity and/or bias...questions that would be asked if one weren't switched off on further pursuit of truth.

3. Of course the NSAC isn't paid. They're not supposed to be paid. They're the state agency tasked to regulate the sport in Nevada (which greatly benefits monetarily/economically whenever guess who fights?). I never said or implied the NSAC were paid.

But the private, for profit agency tasked with carrying out WADA's regulations IS paid for their service. And the "gold standard" of testing was paid handsomely by TMT...more figures than their standard take for testing on other cards/promotions. "The best testing agency money can buy" as someone humorously & literally put it.

4. Now that's a great question...one which I've seen numerous writers & bloggers ponder, and which is the basis for this ****storm started by Thomas Hauser. My personal opinion is...YES. USADA has lost credibility. A lot of people don't know this, but their name is deceptive. They are a private, for profit organization, and the first two letters in their acronym gives the illusion that they are an official "United States" created organization. They're not.

In briefly generalized terms, I see two options. Either the private/for profit organizations become more regulated and accountable under strict governmental oversight, or the government itself establishes an official testing organization.

I'm too tired to go into more detailed analysis on the subject, and I have other business to take care of, so I have to log off for now.

Peace out.

Ummm..... well, if its a multi-choice question, I select option 2

I am placing faith in the two organizations as having the final unimpeachable word on the issue.....
* those two organisations are the sole arbitrators
* those two organisations have the sole responsibility
* one of those organisations is regarded as the gold standard
* those two organisations have access to ALL of the information
..... and those two organisations have both stated that Mayweather did nothing wrong.

And, I actually think that means.....
/debate
because they are the sole arbitrators, and the bottom line rests with them.

All I ask for is consistency.

But I do agree that if they bent the rules for Mayweather then they have sold their integrity.

[aboutfkntime]

getting his ass whoopped? One dimensional? Every fuc*ing youtube replay analysis shows that Manny have beaten Floyd in his own game. Not a single clean punch from Floyd, dude... not a single clean punch.

Far out !

What highlight package were you watching ?