Lets say this really is it for Floyd where do you rank him All time?

[BrometheusBob.]

After what we know now about Floyd, we need a special category for someone like Floyd.

I rank him #IV.

Oh this is could be fun, we should make a special list for this

#I Antonio Margacheato
#II Shane "I was misled by Conte" Mosley
#III Evan Fields
#IV Floyd Armstrong Jr
#V Andre "Ripped Gut" Berto
#VI James Toney
etc

[pasawayako]

I can safely say that floyd is so much better compared to Lance Armstrong.

[El-blanco]

I can only rank guys I've actually seen and whose era I can evaluate. That's the last 20 years. I'd put Floyd at #3 behind Lennox Lewis and Roy.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well I've been told I must believe in the tooth fairy if I think Floyd should fight GGG 4 divisions above where Floyd won his first title. But apparently beating Pacquiao 8 divisions above where he won his first title in Pac's 3rd decade as a pro is enough to bump up Floyd to a top 10 ATG. Not by anyone I would ever take seriously though.

[!! Shawn]

I have him in top 10-20, but would rank him around #13 or so. Best defensive fighter ever, yes, but imo, there are better than him. Had he fought the best boxers in the world while he was younger, and not dodged some till later, then I would rank him top 5.

Eh, I dont know about best defense ever, very good no doubt, but Id still pick Whitaker above him.

Rigondeaux also has better defensive numbers for his career to date than Floyd has.

Just saying.

[!! Shawn]

I can safely say that floyd is so much better compared to Lance Armstrong.

What Lance Armstrong did was accomplish something nobody else in history has, its like smashing Joe Louis title defense record by 8 defenses. Thats what he did.

Its like what Federer did with his grand slams.

Floyd had the potential to do it. He just managed his career to safely and avoided all the risks that would have put him in that category.

What hurts him is that all of his fights, while he won them comfortably on rounds, the actual rounds themselves were impressive either stylistically in terms of boxing performance, like someone like Rigondeaux, or Calderon can do, or flashy like Roy Jones would do.

He left so much on the table, which is kinda sad, because he could have put together a resume that would have him in contention for the top 5 of all time, but he just wasnt willing to.

[krazyn8tive]

There are legends in this sport for a reason. Fighters that none of watched fight live but yet we know and talk about for a reason. Floyd will not go down in history as an Ali, Marciano, or Tyson. He won't go down as a sugar ray or a Duran. He will be remembered yes, but not in the light as these legends have.

[BrometheusBob.]

Well I've been told I must believe in the tooth fairy if I think Floyd should fight GGG 4 divisions above where Floyd won his first title. But apparently beating Pacquiao 8 divisions above where he won his first title in Pac's 3rd decade as a pro is enough to bump up Floyd to a top 10 ATG. Not by anyone I would ever take seriously though.

To be fair to Floyd, when he was the age that Pac turned pro he was fighting in the amateurs at the same weight class (aka strawweight). They've gone up basically the same amount of weight.

But yeah I think top 10 is a bit of a stretch.

[AntonTheMeh]

floyd is undoubtedly the best to ever last them up but even with his easy schooling of the second best fighter of his era, his resume isn't all that great compared to most fighters ranked in the top 5(maybe even top 10).

his top 5 wins are pacquiao, JMM, Corrales, hatton and cotto. not horrible, but unless canelo ends up reigning ala bhop at 160 in the future, or cotto dispatches of ggg, it's going to be difficult to put him in the top 5.

[b00g13man]

Top 10-20.

As time goes on, he'll be looked upon a hell of a lot more favourably, and I believe you'll see him in top 10 lists.