Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Lester Tutor]

If I would have to guess:
"It was to make sure no one else was doping so HE could"

Such a funny poll. It's an obvious social experiment.

''To make sure no one else was doping...''

So people agree that the normal boxer dopes?!

''...so HE could..''

so he could ''mask'' and not let the other boxer mask? lol

Or rather, people are admitting that Toradol is a way of cheating?! Finally Floyd Haters are showing the light.

[ADP02]

Still nobody is capable of providing the simple plot as to how you mask ''illegal substances'' for Floyd's testing.

There are only the following scenarios as to why:

1). Tests are negative. Never has there been a situation for an event with May & Pac testing that can provide an example as to how one would ''dope'' via 750ml.

2). There are methods to 1). If Conte or any expert provides a scenario as to how to do this effectively then it becomes a paradoxical contradiction in sports, because a FACT has proven a definite method over anti-doping techniques, and thus, would supersede any rule and change the rules for WADA's code. This scenario would also detail any athlete's ability to mask ''something'' within 24hrs over the most detailed type of anti-dope testing. Hence, ''anti-dope'' testing.

3). Without substantial evidence or proof for blood results, Hauser is challenging WADA accredited lab testing, which also includes accredited laboratories that even VADA complies to.

4). If it were an actual story, it is poor journalism from various angles not being covered, especially the losing side. The best bet to stir controversy is to hire a third party writer and public domain to stir voice.

5). Floyd Mayweather Jr. is Hauser's priority to discredit. The highest paid athlete, the p4p king in boxing for years, and undisputed and bonafide boxer... Same goes with Top Rank. They would try their upmost best to discredit Floyd at all costs.

6). This is the best fiction one can do in the essence of racially motivated targeting.

7.) Just as people say there was 15 times more the ''amount'' is the same as the amount not present in sports journalism as a story. This isn't a random athlete. It's Floyd Mayweather Jr. Media journalism didn't start this year...
Sadly, ''15 times'' the amount and referring to fluid body weight.... it surprises me how many people are suckered from one writer's approach. That social experiment is a prime example on how people eat politics for any global or local case in news gathering.

Instead of writing what you wrote, all you needed to do was check out if an IV was on the prohibited list or not. If its on the list, no matter what you use to excuse it, the rules contradict your statements. They say that it can be used to mask PEDs .....


Also, USADA/WADA says this as a fact:

WHY THE IV RULE? To protect clean sport and athlete health and safety. It is a fact that IVs can be used to change blood test results (such as hematocrit where EPO or blood doping is being used), mask urine test results (by dilution) or by administering prohibited substances in a way that will more quickly be cleared from the body in order to beat an anti-doping test.


Also from experts,
"The testing is fairly easy to circumvent. All sort of drugs that can fly under the radar using micro-dosing techniques"

[ADP02]

Many things sound great in isolation. When they are unchallenged. Many of us, my self included are capable of self delusion. Since this is an IV thread, I wait for the courts to decide. But my gut feeling is the whole thing stinks. But I don't know how many other fighters applied for a TUE after the fact?

I think because hauser is not a doctor, his statements may be inaccurate. I am not a doctor. I think this thread is losing steam little by little. One guy talking about beibers dongle??? But back to the IV, I hope it is investigated completely to either cast doubt on Floyd or vindicate him. I do believe he brought a lot of this on himself.
Best Regards,
Zaroku

They do not do it often (retroactive TUE) and I'm not just talking about boxing. For all sports, USADA has not given many and I'm quite sure that Floyd is the first to do it for the reasons and circumstances that he provided to us.

[Lester Tutor]

Instead of writing what you wrote, all you needed to do was check out if an IV was on the prohibited list or not. If its on the list, no matter what you use to excuse it, the rules contradict your statements. They say that it can be used to mask PEDs .....


Also, USADA/WADA says this as a fact:

WHY THE IV RULE? To protect clean sport and athlete health and safety. It is a fact that IVs can be used to change blood test results (such as hematocrit where EPO or blood doping is being used), mask urine test results (by dilution) or by administering prohibited substances in a way that will more quickly be cleared from the body in order to beat an anti-doping test.


Also from experts,
"The testing is fairly easy to circumvent. All sort of drugs that can fly under the radar using micro-dosing techniques"

We don't create the WADA rules.

''..a TUE must be submitted for this Prohibited Method if more than 50 mL..''

Does it say a TUE must be submitted immediately? What did Floyd have to hide? The blood and urine samples were already collected May 2nd. The best time if any substance were to be in his blood. Or are we going to go the route that Floyd mastered himself out of this because he had ''memo or Ariza'' affiliation? No plot yet huh. It's just conspiracy theory huh.

[ADP02]

Hauser lost credibility when he showed his ass by saying Haymon should be hanged.

and Floyd never lost any credibility whatever he does.

Good comeback!

[ADP02]

And you replied to anything I said? I didn't reply to yours because it's practically plagiarized from the original Hauser article, but unlike you I don't let others decide my opinion, I do my own research, I've read the wada international standards for the****utic use exemption.

There are strict guidelines for requesting one(& yes that includes retroactive ones), and if Mayweather didn't comply with them and if USADA conspired to grant him the tue request I'll be the first to call him out as a cheat, sadly though that would require actual evidence, not speculation.

So I ask the question you've been ignoring for several days once again; why do you and the rest of the so-called truth seekers have no interest in a wada review of this tue to determine if it's in compliance with the international standards?

Well, for one, half of my post was my own then used in quotes what others including NSAC, Hauser and others states to back up my points. So that is not good enough for you but you can't see that Floyd's excuses are lame and does not add up? How convenient.

So again, you didn't respond to my post and then you expect me to respond to yours?

Compliance? This requires a full investigation to know what's up. Even then, who knows ......

Your point is like saying "Well, Lance Armstrong had a doctor's note for that medication that they found during testing. It was given after the fact but that proved that he had a sore Asz and if you know cycling, it does happen." The authorities reviewed all that and Lance was cleared of any wrong doing.

Wake up. Floyd wanted all that stuff hidden and kept secret way BEFORE May 1st. It was all planned.

[Lester Tutor]

Well, for one, half of my post was my own then used in quotes what others including NSAC, Hauser and others states to back up my points. So that is not good enough for you but you can't see that Floyd's excuses are lame and does not add up? How convenient.

So again, you didn't respond to my post and then you expect me to respond to yours?

Compliance? This requires a full investigation to know what's up. Even then, who knows ......

Your point is like saying "Well, Lance Armstrong had a doctor's note for that medication that they found during testing. It was given after the fact but that proved that he had a sore Asz and if you know cycling, it does happen." The authorities reviewed all that and Lance was cleared of any wrong doing.

Wake up. Floyd wanted all that stuff hidden and kept secret way BEFORE May 1st. It was all planned.

What excuses did Floyd make? He said he was dehydrated. The medical world has treated dehydration via IV or Oral for years on end. Your last sentences are really weak. =(

[ADP02]

Such a funny poll. It's an obvious social experiment.

''To make sure no one else was doping...''

So people agree that the normal boxer dopes?!

''...so HE could..''

so he could ''mask'' and not let the other boxer mask? lol

Or rather, people are admitting that Toradol is a way of cheating?! Finally Floyd Haters are showing the light.

Just stick to Floyd and what he has done in the past. Remember that he is the A side and his opponents want to fight him and I'm sure would sign whatever Floyd demands just to get the fight on.


- Did Floyd remove Maidana's preferred gloves? They had promoted Maidana as a KO artist and then removed his advantage.
- Did Floyd demand a CW against Canelo to remove his only real advantage? This was a fight between to 154 title holders!
- Did Floyd ask Marquez to jump nearly 3 divisions and then Floyd paid Marquez off to come over the 144 agreed upon limit?
- Did Floyd request that Manny conform up to the day of the fight (requested for 5+ years) while Floyd opted out (IV is on the prohibited list)?

[AllEyesOpen]

Well, for one, half of my post was my own then used in quotes what others including NSAC, Hauser and others states to back up my points. So that is not good enough for you but you can't see that Floyd's excuses are lame and does not add up? How convenient.

So again, you didn't respond to my post and then you expect me to respond to yours?

Compliance? This requires a full investigation to know what's up. Even then, who knows ......

Your point is like saying "Well, Lance Armstrong had a doctor's note for that medication that they found during testing. It was given after the fact but that proved that he had a sore Asz and if you know cycling, it does happen." The authorities reviewed all that and Lance was cleared of any wrong doing.

Wake up. Floyd wanted all that stuff hidden and kept secret way BEFORE May 1st. It was all planned.

Trust me, I don't expect you to reply because I know you can't.

More then anything, the fact you dismiss a "full investigation" with an "even then, who knows dot dot dot" proves how little you care about the truth.

If you had read the wada istue it doesn't take a full investigation, wada is well within it's power to review any tue it finds questionable, and I'm sure it could if compelled to do so, but unfortunately all parties involved with inside information on it know there's no point.

[DeandreXI]

Good Morning people, thought I'd stop by and say what's up to my homies Zaroku and Rath, hope y'all enjoy your weekend.