Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[radioraheem]

and being su****ious is not one of those lots of reason?

No, su****ion proves nothing. But results from the lab do.

[Rath]

No, su****ion proves nothing. But results from the lab do.

how can lab test result proves anything if the before and after IV were mixed up?

Is " Floyd was tested before and after the IV" still holds true?

when people ask where was the before test?

USADA provide them with the result of the mixture of the before and after urine sample.

then they ask where was the after test result?

USADA provide them with that same test result of the mixture of Floyd before and after urine sample

then people ask

Why was the result exactly the same, no variation of some sort?

USADA ummm ahhhh because he did nothing wrong.

[torosboxing75]

Only an absolute fool and ignorant one thinks that urine tests are easier to beat. What a joke. You cannot drink lots of water and think it's out of your system. It doesn't work that way with urine. Again, only a fool.

I was joking but if you really think urine can't be cheated you're the fool. Here's one from Memo. "There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don't excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. Then there are chemicals that you take a couple of hours before the race that prevent acidification in the muscles. Together with epo they are an absolute miracle. I've created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the doping testers."

[radioraheem]

how can lab test result proves anything if the before and after IV were mixed up?

Is " Floyd was tested before and after the IV" still holds true?

when people ask where was the before test?

USADA provide them with the result of the mixture of the before and after urine sample.

then they ask where was the after test result?

USADA provide them with that same test result of the mixture of Floyd before and after urine sample

then people ask

Why was the result exactly the same, no variation of some sort?

USADA ummm ahhhh because he did nothing wrong.

Because urine is URINE. Mixed or not, it's still the athlete's urine. Again, you cannot mask PED usage in the URINE with saline and multivitamins.

[radioraheem]

I was joking but if you really think urine can't be cheated you're the fool. Here's one from Memo. "There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don't excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. Then there are chemicals that you take a couple of hours before the race that prevent acidification in the muscles. Together with epo they are an absolute miracle. I've created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the doping testers."

Where does he say saline and multivitamins? I'll wait...

[Rath]

Because urine is URINE. Mixed or not, it's still the athlete's urine. Again, you cannot mask PED usage in the URINE with saline and multivitamins.

so why did they bother taking the before when the after is just as good?

[torosboxing75]

There are obvious signs of dehydration, one being dry skin. Floyd's skin at the weigh in looked very oily. I guess Floyd really isn't human at all. Lets not forget to have a IV you have to be severely dehydrated. Floyd didn't look weak or dry, he just looked nervous. I don't think he even sat down to put his cloths back on. "He had a medical emergency doe"

[radioraheem]

so why did they bother taking the before when the after is just as good?

Regardless, you cannot mask PEDs in the urine with saline and multivitamins.

[torosboxing75]

Where does he say saline and multivitamins? I'll wait...

They weren't testing for saline and vitamins. Saline and vitamins were to beat the blood test. I pointed out a way to beat the urine also.

[IR0NFIST]

Yes, but within the blood. Not within the urine.

False. The use of saline can alter the pH of both blood and urine by diluting whatever prohibited substance may be present within the sample, which in turn, can lead to an inconclusive test result.

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/lance-armstrongs-guide-to-passing-a-drug-test

Masking involves the use of a drug or chemical to alter the pH of blood or urine. Armstrong's drug of choice was the blood booster EPO. When injected directly into the vein this anemia drug would be gone without a trace in a matter of hours. Therefore, Armstrong and his teammates would time their usage. In a pinch, a doctor would smuggle Armstrong a saline infusion that would dilute his blood.