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  • Rath
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    #921
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Step up your troll game, it's piss poor.
    you can not even answer a simple question and you call it piss poor?

    what's that says about you then?

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    • radioraheem
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      #922
      Originally posted by Rath
      raheem contention was IV can only masked blood test and not urine.

      then what's the point of doing blood test if it could be masked?

      urine can not be masked by IV according to him so urine test would suffice is it not?
      Again, urine alone does not suffice. Blood alone does not suffice either. That's why every anti-doping agency, VADA, USADA, UKAD, etc, all take both blood and urine samples. It is mandatory.

      But you seemingly think you know better than all the anti-doping agencies around the world.

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      • ADP02
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        #923
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        Or it could be that he was feeling sick. Or it could be, he just wanted to cause controversy for the future. Or it could be a Pastor told him it would be good luck.



        It could be this, it could be that, it could be... all just speculation that leads nowhere.
        This is too funny coming from someone that wanted all kinds of evidence for Manny. Surgery was not enough for you.

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        • Rath
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          #924
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          Yes, saline and multivitamins is not going to mask a urine sample. That is an absolute joke. And that is also why urine samples are always taken.

          I won't sit here and do all your homework for you. But again, every single anti-doping agency around the world takes both blood and urine. And there are very, very, very good reasons for this.
          you forgot to answer one simple question.

          what was NSAC's program back in 2009 to test doping?

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            #925
            Originally posted by ADP02
            This is too funny coming from someone that wanted all kinds of evidence for Manny. Surgery was not enough for you.
            Did we get any evidence? Apart from the injury not being as severe as it was made out to be, proven by the fact he was playing basketball only 4 months after surgery.

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            • Rath
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              #926
              Originally posted by radioraheem
              Again, urine alone does not suffice. Blood alone does not suffice either. That's why every anti-doping agency, VADA, USADA, UKAD, etc, all take both blood and urine samples. It is mandatory.

              But you seemingly think you know better than all the anti-doping agencies around the world.
              IV based my replies on your contention that Floyd doing IV is illogical if his intention was to masked his PED use thru blood test because urine test can not be masked by IV.

              hence the point where i said what's the use of blood test if it could be masked by IV while urine can not. therefore urine would suffice.

              how is that complicated?

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              • radioraheem
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                #927
                Originally posted by Rath
                you forgot to answer one simple question.

                what was NSAC's program back in 2009 to test doping?
                They did not have a random drug testing program.

                All they had was basically a scheduled pre and post-fight urine test.

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                • Rath
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                  #928
                  Originally posted by radioraheem
                  They did not have a random drug testing program.

                  All they had was basically a scheduled pre and post-fight urine test.
                  they don't have blood testing back in 2009?

                  tell me what can you not find in urine test that you can find in blood test beside te ratio or was it hemoglobin count?

                  Pac felt weak when they took blood from him so close to the fight against eric morales what's that blood for that they took from Pac?
                  Last edited by Rath; 09-14-2015, 12:26 AM.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #929
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    Did we get any evidence? Apart from the injury not being as severe as it was made out to be, proven by the fact he was playing basketball only 4 months after surgery.
                    Floyd said he had a messed up torn rotator cuff too after the Castillo 1 fight in April 2002. They had planned the rematch for August 2002 but reasons other than his shoulder were used to delay it a couple of months. That means, Floyd was ready to start training camp in June!

                    As for Manny, he had surgery and we have well known doctor stating that he had the injury. So yes, we have evidence.

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                    • radioraheem
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                      #930
                      Originally posted by Rath
                      they don't have blood testing back in 2009?

                      tell me what can you not find in urine test that you can find in blood test beside te ratio or was it hemoglobin count?
                      No, in general, NSAC did not do blood testing for illegal substances. And when they did take blood, it was more for medical routine to see if an athlete was healthy.

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