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Originally posted by pasawayako View PostYeah. I think this thread will always remind the people on how floyd use the armstrong tactic to pass the test.
# 875 pages on how to expose a FraudLast edited by Spoon23; 07-07-2017, 06:03 PM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostOh my, this epicly daminging thread really brings out the floyd agenda in a big way. Can't get any clearer than this. Floyd cheated his way to a marathon, Huggathon event. SMH
# 875 pages on how to expose a FraudLast edited by Vadrigar.; 07-07-2017, 06:14 PM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostOh my, this epicly daminging thread really brings out the floyd agenda in a big way. Can't get any clearer than this. Floyd cheated his way to a marathon, Huggathon event. SMH
# 875 pages on how to expose a Fraud
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Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post50% of what you post reference the methods or instances where athletes successfully avoid targeted testing. This isn't the case with Manny or floyd.
The other 50% of your nonsense predates before WADA officially launched Athlete Biological Passport testing.
Lance Armstrong and Victor Conte have been qouted praising ABP testing.
You even went so far in another thread saying that Memo is capable of fooling CIR testing.
Cholesterol synthetic testosterone - can you provide links and receipts?
In not a chemist so I won't pretend to break down the science of it all, but I have a hard time believing anything you say.
Can you provide a few links/studies that can support your claim?
I can answer that ....
There are several ways to beat CIR testing.
1) CIR testing has trouble detecting when an athlete is taking small amounts of the synthetic testosterone. Small doses can beat the test because the test isn’t sensitive enough to detect low doses.
2) Novistsky agrees that there is a 2nd way to beat CIR testing:
Question: You told me in Brazil,....there is a new type of testosterone that are making testosterone from yams?
Novistsky: Correct
Question: and now doing it thru animals?
Novistsky: yes they are, one of the most accurate tests is CIR test for testosterone , ....... there is now research, .... there is an animal based testosterone that can potentially beat CIR test.
Novistsky: "I believe its being used now"
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostI can answer that ....
There are several ways to beat CIR testing.
1) CIR testing has trouble detecting when an athlete is taking small amounts of the synthetic testosterone. Small doses can beat the test because the test isn’t sensitive enough to detect low doses.
2) Novistsky agrees that there is a 2nd way to beat CIR testing:
Question: You told me in Brazil,....there is a new type of testosterone that are making testosterone from yams?
Novistsky: Correct
Question: and now doing it thru animals?
Novistsky: yes they are, one of the most accurate tests is CIR test for testosterone , ....... there is now research, .... there is an animal based testosterone that can potentially beat CIR test.
Novistsky: "I believe its being used now"
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Remember that "ABP thingy"?
15. WHAT IS AN “ATYPICAL” STEROIDAL PASSPORT (ATPF)? UP
A Steroidal Passport is deemed atypical when the resulting longitudinal T/E profile or a particular T/E value is unlikely to be a result of normal physiological fluctuation, as calculated by the Adaptive Model. Plans are underway to enable declaring an ATPF based on other variables of the steroid profile than the T/E alone (e.g. A/T androsterone/testosterone).
16. CAN THERE BE AN ADVERSE ANALYTICAL FINDING (AAF) DIRECTLY FROM THE PASSPORT AND, IF SO, WHAT PROCESS IS FOLLOWED? UP
No. However, in the case of an ATPF, a Confirmation Procedure including an Isotope Ratio Mass Spectrometry (IRMS) analysis will be performed automatically by the Laboratory responsible for the analysis of the Sample.
If the IRMS is positive (i.e. the exogenous origin of the steroid and an ATPF are confirmed), the outcome of the analysis becomes an AAF, with the Testing Authority responsible for the results management process and for taking a subsequent decision.
17. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE IRMS IS NEGATIVE OR INCONCLUSIVE? UP
If the IRMS is negative or inconclusive (i.e. the exogenous origin of the steroid is not confirmed), then the APMU of the Passport Custodian must seek an Expert Review. (See OG Appendix E: TD2015 RMR, p. 45) The APMU will then determine the subsequent measures to take (i.e. more testing, case to open, etc.).
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/question...rsion#item-524
Even if an athlete uses testosterone in which the origin is undetectable by today's test, they still can be caught by the ABP steroid module.
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