Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[ADP02]

So, it can accurately be stated that the NSAC can decide what constitutes actual evidence!! If that is true, they can also decide what isn't evidence..

Are you with me??
Do you agree??

That being said, no matter how sad certain "true boxing" fans are about their decisions... They do have authority to make decisions in the state of Nevada.

Now.. Maybe an appeal to the NSAC might be a better use of energies??

Read my post above this one. Its very interesting what the NSAC might do. See the draft.

[Zaroku]

Read my post above this one. Its very interesting what the NSAC might do. See the draft.

In my profession, poorly drafted legislation/rules are only fine tuned when exceptions appear.

Now they are fine tuning the rules.. So at the time, at the time, Floyd did nothing wrong, according to the rules in effect at that time...


Yes or No?

[original zero]

IV is legal in nevada, so a TUE wouldn't be needed.

nice try.

[Zaroku]

Read my post above this one. Its very interesting what the NSAC might do. See the draft.

Does the NSAC have the authority to create and enforce rules in Nevada??

Spoon23, jump in please. Please and anyone else who has an opinion..

does the Nevada State Athletic Comission have the right to create and enforce boxing rules in the state of Nevada???

Spoon, yes or no??

[ADP02]

In my profession, poorly drafted legislation/rules are only fine tuned when exceptions appear.

Now they are fine tuning the rules.. So at the time, at the time, Floyd did nothing wrong, according to the rules in effect at that time...


Yes or No?

Incorrect. The NSAC had requested Manny to be investigated for the same the Floyd didn't do. Reveal to the NSAC his medical condition. Worse in Floyd's case because he actually used an IV.

Secondly, the NSAC stated back then that it was "unacceptable". Now they are just making sure that no loopholes are there.




but part of me wonders if the NSAC was waiting for Floyd to retire first before amending. First I said, maybe just a coincidence but then I noticed also this.


Here is trying to make sure that the Maidana gloves scandal does not happen 24 hours before the fight. Where Floyd used his A side and demanded 24 hours before the fight to agree to using different gloves.

Requirements for gloves. (NRS 467.030) The gloves used in a contest or exhibition must meet the following requirements:
1. The gloves must be examined by the representative of the Commission and the referee. If padding in any glove is found to be misplaced or lumpy or if any glove is found to be imperfect, or not in compliance with any written contract or agreement between the contestants, the glove must be changed before the contest or exhibition starts. No breaking down, roughing or twisting of gloves is permitted.
2. The gloves for every contest or exhibition that is designated as a main event must be new, furnished by the promoter no less than 7 calendar days in advance of the scheduled bout, and made to fit the hands of the unarmed combatant.


Unarmed combatants shall use only those brands and models of gloves that have been approved by the Commission for their contest or exhibition.
8. Any written contract or agreements between the contestants with respect to acceptable gloves for a bout must be furnished to the Commission not less than 7 calendar days before the scheduled bout.

[ADP02]

IV is legal in nevada, so a TUE wouldn't be needed.

nice try.

Floyd voluntarily paid USADA 150K to make sure that Floyd was allowed to use an IV ..... BUT according to USADA/WADA it is illegal!

[Zaroku]

Incorrect. The NSAC had requested Manny to be investigated for the same the Floyd didn't do. Reveal to the NSAC his medical condition. Worse in Floyd's case because he actually used an IV.

Secondly, the NSAC stated back then that it was "unacceptable". Now they are just making sure that no loopholes are there.


but part of me wonders if the NSAC was waiting for Floyd to retire first before amending. First I said, maybe just a coincidence but then I noticed also this.


Here is trying to make sure that the Maidana gloves scandal does not happen 24 hours before the fight. Where Floyd used his A side and demanded 24 hours before the fight to agree to using different gloves.

Requirements for gloves. (NRS 467.030) The gloves used in a contest or exhibition must meet the following requirements:
1. The gloves must be examined by the representative of the Commission and the referee. If padding in any glove is found to be misplaced or lumpy or if any glove is found to be imperfect, or not in compliance with any written contract or agreement between the contestants, the glove must be changed before the contest or exhibition starts. No breaking down, roughing or twisting of gloves is permitted.
2. The gloves for every contest or exhibition that is designated as a main event must be new, furnished by the promoter no less than 7 calendar days in advance of the scheduled bout, and made to fit the hands of the unarmed combatant.


Unarmed combatants shall use only those brands and models of gloves that have been approved by the Commission for their contest or exhibition.
8. Any written contract or agreements between the contestants with respect to acceptable gloves for a bout must be furnished to the Commission not less than 7 calendar days before the scheduled bout.

It wouldn't have mattered whether or not he retired. The decision at the time the IV occurred would not be changed..

So the powers passed it over.. Welcome to the real world. It is over!
Nothing will change!!!

Sue the NSAC..

[original zero]

Floyd voluntarily paid USADA 150K to make sure that Floyd was allowed to use an IV ..... BUT according to USADA/WADA it is illegal!

Floyd *and* Manny voluntarily paid, and they really paid 100k because you get 50k back after the fight.

IV was legal in Nevada for any reason, but because Floyd and Manny paid for additional voluntary regulations, IV was only legal under certain conditions.

Those conditions were met.

According to USADA/WADA, IV is illegal without special permission, but special permission was granted.

There is no controversy here other than the one you've created in your head.

[original zero]

Incorrect. The NSAC had requested Manny to be investigated for the same the Floyd didn't do. Reveal to the NSAC his medical condition. Worse in Floyd's case because he actually used an IV.

Here is why you are wrong. Floyd and Manny had to answer very specific questions. One of the questions was, do you have a shoulder injury?

There was no question that said "predict if you're going to feel ill hours from now."

[ADP02]

Floyd *and* Manny voluntarily paid, and they really paid 100k because you get 50k back after the fight.

IV was legal in Nevada for any reason, but because Floyd and Manny paid for additional voluntary regulations, IV was only legal under certain conditions.

Those conditions were met.

According to USADA/WADA, IV is illegal without special permission, but special permission was granted.

There is no controversy here other than the one you've created in your head.

Wrong!

For the excuse that Floyd used, it should NOT have been approved!


Who in their right mind thinks that someone who weighed in:
150 30 days out, 149, 2 weeks out, 148 1 week out. weighing in at 146? Then we saw drinking his weigh back up to 147? 148? 149? Then needed an IV after? WHO????

Floyd also came in at 149 on fight night after he said "I ate a lot and was extremely physically strong"?


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