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Originally posted by saint laurentRath -
USADA has publicly stated that their doping control officer was with Mayweather when paramedics were called and was with Mayweather when the paramedics arrived and administered the IV. So, USADA was there before the paramedics.
USADA has publicly stated they arrived BEFORE paramedics were called, witnessed Floyd's condition and the IV was administered by a paramedic that was called after USADA arrived and it was administered in the presence of USADA.
There is proper protocol for applying for a TUE and whatever paperwork needed to be filled out, I'm sure Floyd's lawyers, doctors, etc took their time to make sure everything was handled exactly as the rules stipulate.
IV use was completely legal in Nevada, so there was nothing to inform NSAC about. Nothing Floyd did was against NSAC rules. It was the additional VOLUNTARY regulations that Manny & Floyd agreed to that required Floyd to seek USADA's blessing for the IV. Floyd already had NSAC's blessing as it was completely within NSAC rules to begin with.
Whatever condition Floyd was in that necessitated calling paramedics, USADA is not going to approve a TUE in that exact moment. That is not how the process works. USADA has to evaluate the request, adjudicate their decision, etc. That takes time. If a human being is ill, do you expect them to lay there for weeks waiting for USADA's ruling before seeking treatment?
There was nothing in the NSAC rules about IVs. You are the one claiming it was against the rules. Have you read the rules? I can't show you in the rules where it says it's legal because the rules only state what isn't legal. Again, the rules don't say that bread and cheese are legal, because the rules list what ISN'T legal, not what is.
USADA has publicly stated that IV use was and is 100% legal in Nevada and NSAC publicly stated Floyd did not break any rules.
The exact details of Floyd's condition were not revealed due to HIPPA laws. Which is why USADA can't reveal what the diagnosis was, only that they witnessed his condition (whatever that condition was), witnessed the paramedic, witnessed the IV, etc, that Floyd followed all procedures and did not break any rules.
But if you think the NSAC and USADA are lying and are part of some giant conspiracy, there's nothing I can say that is going to change your mind.
remember USADA don't announced when they are coming, Floyd did not call USADA.
only then did they informed that Floyd was dehydrated.
then that registered nurse was floated to prove that floyd's IV was administered by an authorized person.
but when that registered nurse name was asked and they can not provide one, they changed it to paramedics. until now nobody knows who that paramedic is from where they come from.
link where it says IV use is legal in nevada, why can't you provide it?
USADA never said floyd was dehydrated.
they released press statement and not once did they mentioned floyd was dehydrated, not even once.
there are no doctors on USADA collectors team.
USADA collector can not tell if a man is dehydrated by just looking at him.
tinfoil hat you say.
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Originally posted by considerthis View PostUhhh...i didn't say i wouldn't take the time to make fun of you...just not to have rational discussion. There is a difference lol..but you're all troll all the time, so you don't get that.
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Originally posted by saint laurentThere isn't any mystery. It was saline, which is what fighters were using to re hydrate in Nevada week in and week out, which was COMPLETELY LEGAL under NSAC rules.
Manny & Floyd VOLUNTARILY agreed to additional regulations, which stipulated that an exemption was needed for that method of re hydration and the exemption was granted.
Everything was done by the rules. If you have any questions or are confused about anything, I'd be happy to answer. There's been a lot of misinformation posted in this thread, so I can understand why you'd be confused.
But NSAC and USADA both confirmed Floyd did everything by the books.
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Originally posted by saint laurentSpoon -
I do not post on this site under any name other than my own. St Laurent is my legal name. I am the great grandson of former Canadian Prime Minister Louis St Laurent. I've done nothing to conceal my identity.
If you feel strongly that I am "considerthis," I am willing to take a polygraph examination if you agree that each of us will put up $10,000. If I'm telling the truth, I get your 10k. If I'm lying, you get mine. Interested?
I'd be happy to offer my opinion on Bennett's statement as well as my opinion on anything else you are curious about, but you can't disregard the facts and just post "sheep" over and over and then expect me to continue to try to have an adult conversation with you.
I am not a fan of either fighter being discussed and I am not a fan of boxing in general. I just happen to work in the combat sports industry and closely follow various combat sports regardless of whether I enjoy them or not. So I'm not going to have an emotional attachment to many of the subjects that some of you seem so attached to.
Bennett was clearly trying to save face because Hauser exposed that drug testing in sports is a joke. Anybody on the inside knows that 99% of professional athletes are doping. It's just how the game is played. Drug testing programs have nothing to do with stopping drug use and everything to do with public relations and creating plausible deniability.
But if you're going to ask me to criticize the NSAC, I'm not going to do it. I work with many athletic commissions, may need to work with the NSAC someday and I have nothing to gain by criticizing them.
USADA's position was pretty clear and logical though. IV use was 100% legal in Nevada, so there was no need to notify NSAC of something that didn't violate their rules.
But with all of the hysteria after Hauser's article, obviously the NSAC was going to put out a strongly worded statement to deflect the blame to USADA, even though nobody did anything wrong on either side.
However, the public is generally of low intelligence and once they're in an uproar about something, the facts are irrelevant. All that matters is damage control.
As you mentioned. The blame game.
But what you fail to understand USADA ****ed up and instead of being reprimanded. NSAC embraced their shady corrupt medical procedure and gave them a TUE. Spin it all you want. NSAC is in it with Floyd and USADA.Last edited by Spoon23; 11-24-2015, 09:28 PM.
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Originally posted by Zaroku View PostSo if I drop out of this thread, it will surely pass?
I am on so many other threads.
But in this one my voice carries weight?
I am not in it to win it! It is over! No investigation. No asterisk next to the win over PAC.
Are you saying my comments add fuel to this perpetual fire of futility??
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Originally posted by saint laurentThere isn't any mystery. It was saline, which is what fighters were using to re hydrate in Nevada week in and week out, which was COMPLETELY LEGAL under NSAC rules.
Manny & Floyd VOLUNTARILY agreed to additional regulations, which stipulated that an exemption was needed for that method of re hydration and the exemption was granted.
Everything was done by the rules. If you have any questions or are confused about anything, I'd be happy to answer. There's been a lot of misinformation posted in this thread, so I can understand why you'd be confused.
But NSAC and USADA both confirmed Floyd did everything by the books.
whatever he took saline, mystery mix we dont know but what we do know is the amount he took and he broke the rules their.
great video that explains it.
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