Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

And if you listen to any actual boxer what goes with time is your ability to pull the trigger. PEDs give you the ability to pull the trigger.

This!

I got a feeling that that guy doesn't know anything about PEDs.

[b00g13man]

[Slip Stream]

And if you listen to any actual boxer what goes with time is your ability to pull the trigger. PEDs give you the ability to pull the trigger.

You're still not getting it, Mayweather used skill, PEDs don't create perfect boxers that hit the mark like Mayweather does, again that's called skill. But the real point, as I've stated before, isn't about catching Mayweather using PEDs, it's about rewriting history to favor a beat fighter in Pacquiao. Skills factor into wins, but to hear other folks talk, PEDs are solely responsible for the win. Forget about all of the years of training, knowledge and technique, it's all PEDs.

The funny thing is, his fight with Manny wasn't even close to his toughest fight. I had trouble giving Pacquiao one round, and I only did that because I was getting my d1ck ****** at the same time I was scoring the fourth.

[Lester Tutor]

No golden boy was. It references a pattern of behavior by USADA. They dont report positive tests if the people paying them dont want them reported.

USADA has on credibility because they have hid positive tests in the past and then lied about it to NSAC and the press.



Do you know what was handed over? Yes or no? The answer is know because USADA doesn't say. They never specifically say that they fully complied with the subpena. Only that they turned over some documents. Nowhere do they say that they turned over all requested documents, specifically test results.



WADA doesn't know what samples belong to whom. USADA is playing on your own ignorance of the process.

You still don't understand, and advice for you, try to stick to actual points of reference pertaining to actual statements, not jump into Morales or tangents. I mean do you see Hauser or USADA cross referencing in different points just to clarify ONE particular statement?

I said many times on this forum. Those are cowardly things to do. And you gotta admit it's funny you reply to rhetorical questions as if we didn't know Golden Boy were the promoters...

The problem is you don't seem to understand or acknowledge realistic process. You state WADA "doesn't know." If WADA needs to get involved it would, but it was a settlement.

If you want play conspiracy theory then fine.

I find it funny how Pac decides to have his blood samples done in Asia, because it would seem difficult for American authorities trying to get jurisdiction in a foreign country hosting results from a WADA accredited lab adhering to their code. Perhaps if a WADA accredited lab didn't want to cooperate in an investigation I'd imagine could forfeit their accreditation because it would something like oh..."hey Pac, why didn't you want to do WADA style testing?" -Brian Kenny (ESPN)

You'd be surprised how mamy people still don't get what a WADA accredited lab means... that follow the code procedures. They just think "WADA."

[GTTofAK]

You're still not getting it, Mayweather used skill, PEDs don't create perfect boxers that hit the mark like Mayweather does, again that's called skill.

No its called hand eye coordination, something PEDs are proven to improve.

[Slip Stream]

No its called hand eye coordination, something PEDs are proven to improve.

I'm sure there are lots of boxers that have used PEDs, but I have yet to see any of them have near the skill that Floyd has. Floyd must be using a new designer kind of PED that allows him to hypnotize his opponents into letting him tap them on the noggin at will?

[GTTofAK]

You still don't understand

No you dont ****ing understand. Hausers article was not titled Mayweather USED PEDs.

Its titled "Can Boxing Trust USADA"

Hauser puts forward a pattern of behavior where USADA hides information for those who pay them. The Morales case is the most clear cut case we have as it has long since played out.

Your entire argument is based on the bleif that USADA is being truthful and forthright in their response to Hauser. Unfortunately, for you USADA lied in the Morales case to the NSAC and the press. No wonder you dont like people talking about how USADA lied about Morales. It destroyed your entire argument. Well you can just go **** yourself then you ****** piece of ****. You cant use USADA as a trustworthy source they have no credibility.

Look at their own words. They go to great lengths in their response not to commit lies of commission but it is full of lies of omission and context.

On that October 17th, phone call with the NSAC do you think they just forgot to mention the 2 previous A and B samples that tested positive? No. They were lying by omission. They were hoping that the only thing that had been leaked to the press was the one positive A sample test. They were wrong and got caught in a lie.

[GTTofAK]

I'm sure there are lots of boxers that have used PEDs, but I have yet to see any of them have near the skill that Floyd has.

Never saw a baseball player who could make contact as well as Bonds. .370 when every team is trying to pitch around you. That is unreal.

[ModernTalking]

A lesson in "defense?" How'd Manny do that, by blocking Mayweather's punches with his head?

By slipping with head movement and countering Froid in the process. The only shots Froid landed were the ones the commentators were yapping about which is none.

[Lester Tutor]

No you dont ****ing understand. Hausers article was not titled Mayweather USED PEDs.

Its titled "Can Boxing Trust USADA"

Hauser puts forward a pattern of behavior where USADA hides information for those who pay them. The Morales case is the most clear cut case we have as it has long since played out.

Your entire argument is based on the bleif that USADA is being truthful and forthright in their response to Hauser. Unfortunately, for you USADA lied in the Morales case to the NSAC and the press. No wonder you dont like people talking about how USADA lied about Morales. It destroyed your entire argument. Well you can just go **** yourself then you ****** piece of ****. You cant use USADA as a trustworthy source they have no credibility.

Look at their own words. They go to great lengths in their response not to commit lies of commission but it is full of lies of omission and context.

On that October 17th, phone call with the NSAC do you think they just forgot to mention the 2 previous A and B samples that tested positive? No. They were lying by omission. They were hoping that the only thing that had been leaked to the press was the one positive A sample test. They were wrong and got caught in a lie.

I see, ''the pattern'' of information they hid. So you're agreeing that Floyd had no wrong doing, it was USADA's fault.. I see we're only focusing on a Golden Boy ordeal because Hauser a couple years back officially got an award for solving the case huh? His ''PED Mess'' articles with boyfriend Montoya huh. You're contradicting even the point of replying in this thread if you're acknowledging that it's ''not about Floyd.'' wtf... Ironically you speak of titles, what's the thread title?

Stop bringing up Barry Bonds. Only an idiot revisits a different sport and not once mention BALCO or Victor Conte. facepalm