Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[peyk-peyk]

Yes your right it was introduced in 2000 but was nowhere near as sophisticated as today .

^^^This guy will say everything to protect a known cheater that he idolizes like a god.

[Lester Tutor]

No it wont detect any. It will detect testosterone synthesized from soy phytosterols. Testosterone synthesized from cholesterol is undetectable. Testosterone synthesized from soy phytosterols is the most common prescription testosterone because it is cheaper to produce. However, any skilled chemist can synthesize testosterone from cholesterol. Hello Memo.

Of course USADA insists that their biological passport is the real test. Floyd Landis had this to say about he biological passport.

Again Mr. GTTofAK,

Why must you contextualize Floyd Landis?! An athlete. Is he the one that sits in a lab and knows the conceptualize medical knowledge of WADA's Athlete Biological Passport, (ABP)? Don't you think it's practical for Floyd Landis to just say ''hey, that style is suspect, I went to medical school...I know the real deal.''

You say ''USADA insists that their biological passport...'' You said ''their.''

My friend, word of advise, don't just cherry pick copy and paste info from a google search without actually knowing what you're talking about.

[GTTofAK]

Your denial is relentless. I'm shocked that the many years you've been on this forum have you gained what knowledge on the politics of boxing? Do you just post without thinking that perhaps your emotional opinions, not all opinions, are easily flagged to be corrected?

I mean, you say ''legit news outlets saw NSAC sweep it under the rug..., no one gives a **** that boxing is corrupt?'' Yet you insinuate to corruption could only surround Mayweather Jr. Will you ever be brave enough to admit that Top Rank and Pacquiao are suspect. I won't even confuse on the bigger picture of networks and conflicts of interest.

Here at least try once to respond to something within my statement, not go into a typical tangent or strawman tactics diverting the facts..

Just try. You might learn something out of it. Don't get emotional. =)

False equivalency fallacy.

[Lester Tutor]

False equivalency fallacy.

Ok...

So what does ''false equivalency fallacy'' mean for my context? Kind of like elementary testing where a student has to give an academic answer, not just multiple choice.

You bring this on yourself, son.

[GTTofAK]

Again Mr. GTTofAK,

Why must you contextualize Floyd Landis?! An athlete. Is he the one that sits in a lab and knows the conceptualize medical knowledge of WADA's Athlete Biological Passport, (ABP)? Don't you think it's practical for Floyd Landis to just say ''hey, that style is suspect, I went to medical school...I know the real deal.''

You say ''USADA insists that their biological passport...'' You said ''their.''

My friend, word of advise, don't just cherry pick copy and paste info from a google search without actually knowing what you're talking about.

Ad hominem fallacy. Landis beat the WADA testing for years and never tested positive for EPO.

[GTTofAK]

So what does ''false equivalency fallacy'' mean for my context? Kind of like elementary testing where a student has to give an academic answer, not just multiple choice.

Froid accusing Manny and his fans believing it is not equivalent to Froid having an IV right before his test and twice having T/E ratios well below 1.

The first is an accusation with no evidence. The second is evidence. They are not equivalent.

[Lester Tutor]

Ad hominem fallacy. Landis beat the WADA testing for years and never tested positive for EPO.

Ad hominem fallacy?

You're the one referencing WADA and Landis as if the same boxing event drug testing protocol applies to Floyd and Pacquiao.

Did Landis go through the testing procedure of EPO, CIR, and HGH in the timeframe of March 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, and 28, April 1, 2, 9, 10, 15, 16, 21, 22 and 27 and May 1 and 2?

This is what you're saying, correct? Or are you just contextualizing a report that has no significance because you stated that ''USADA's Biological Passport....or 'theirs.''

You can't escape the ownage, bruv.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Didn't see anything regarding this in the news for the 6th day in a row. Sorry fanboys, vitamin c and saline are not PED's.

The story isn't going away, if that's what you're thinking.

[GTTofAK]

You're the one referencing WADA and Landis as if the same boxing event drug testing protocol applies to Floyd and Pacquiao.

Do you have any evidence to suggest that the "biological profile" is somehow different in cycling than it is boxing. I find it hard to believe that different sports have different meaning for "biological profiles". Biological profile is simply a complicated way of saying what is normal to the athlete. Landis was able to trick his biological profile by simply monitoring and controlling his EPO levels.

Did Landis go through the testing procedure of EPO, CIR, and HGH in the timeframe of March 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 23, 24, and 28, April 1, 2, 9, 10, 15, 16, 21, 22 and 27 and May 1 and 2?

Cyclists are tested after every leg.

[The Big Dunn]

The story isn't going away, if that's what you're thinking.

The story has gone away. Sorry to upset you. No one cares about vitamin c and saline.