Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[SilverMiles]

Jesus Christ, the suspension of disbelief for Floyd haters is that PEDs and Pacquiao are impossible? You can list a thousand names, but when you don't include Pacquiao in the mix, and as we all know back in 2010, didn't want to draw blood....

Cakewalk eating these trollers.

But we're not naming a 1000 fighters just Floyd.

And Manny never decline to draw blood. That just kills your whole arguement

[IR0NFIST]

No. You just quoted me and added that it was ridicule instead of making a more clear point for me to respond to. I know it's classy in this forum for many trollers to just over statements and bring in ad homs as if they provided a checkmate.

Again, hence, ''Again,'' isn't it obvious that Floyd brings in celebrities to insinuate his status quo in the field of entertainment? He doesn't make that any more obvious by bringing in Bieber or Lil Wayne. Hector Camacho, Prince Naseem, Floyd, the whole gladiator intro insinuating status or skill in the sport... whereas now, the most highest paid athlete in the world puppets singers for his entrance?

To make my point clear again, to ad hominemism, which I guess you dorks are just claiming as ''fallacy...''

Again, hence, ''Again,'' isn't it obvious that Floyd brought in Ariza to make a statement against Pac's team?

Geez.. some of you play the fool as good as one in a Shakespeare masterpiece.

This guy is having such difficulty getting a point across, he's beginning to make up words. You're trying too hard to appear smart and it resulted in making yourself look like a complete, and utter, ******.

Lol at "ad hominemism".

[boxinghead530]

He is not. Why do you think he had to bring Memo in? Froid was paying Ariza for something that Ariza couldn't deliver so he subcontracted.

What makes you think Ariza has no knowledge of PEDs? You know whats inside his brain? The dude is a schooled and educated trainer. You know about that stuff, it comes with the territory. This IS the steroid era of sports. Is it absolutely true that Pac is on PED, no but there is lots of su****ion. I think now he is clean, he doesn't have that edge to him anymore. And I think that loss of edge has something to do with it. His body is different and his body acne was a dead give away. When he was on the stuff he had an edge, he was way more active and he was meaner. Hey im not saying this because I hate Pacquiao, if anything hes been one of my favorite fighters to watch. I was a huge fan and I truly admire his story coming out of the Philipines and how he has transformed lots of people over there, its commendable. But IMO, and I truly wish I don't have this feeling(because I am a fan) but I feel he was dirty at one point in his career.

Now back to Mayweather, he is a different story. He is truly a validated PED user no question about it. There is lots of evidence and history proving it. Him being able to train the way he does and stay in shape the way he does is a big giveaway. The dude is known to train two and something three time a day during training camp and at all hours of the day and night. And he never suffers from overtraining as that used to be a huge problem for fighters back in the day. When is the last time you have heard a fighter suffering from over training. I remember that boxers were very aware of the happening back in the day, but these days no. So that makes me wonder. Floyd body is just as cut up and sharp as when he was in his early twenties. When have you seen a fighter have just as cut up of a body as when they were in there twenties? Floyd is a straight up validated user and more evidence will surface as time goes on.

[GTTofAK]

Jesus Christ, the suspension of disbelief for Floyd haters is that PEDs and Pacquiao are impossible?

Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, 'you cant prove it false.'

[GTTofAK]

What makes you think Ariza has no knowledge of PEDs?

I said steroids. You dont optimally deliver steroids in "shakes". Oral steroids leave metabolites that will ultimately get you popped in a drug test, either now or later as the steroid and its metabolites are identified.

Ariza's game is over the counter stimulants, preworkout basically. That is what is in his "shakes" that is what Rios who was being trained by Ariza got popped with.

That he is a "trainer" means little to me. Many trainers use the stimulant scam on their clients. Ariza isn't Poliquin, or Rippetoe, or DeFranco. He is basically a con artists.

[Lester Tutor]

This guy is having such difficulty getting a point across, he's beginning to make up words. You're trying too hard to appear smart and it resulted in making yourself look like a complete, and utter, ******.

Lol at "ad hominemism".

Difficulty for Pac trollers? No... don't be funny!

I'm sorry in your case ''ad ****ism'' !

[Lester Tutor]

Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, 'you cant prove it false.'

Right, just like you can prove that Floyd was doping. You're funny, kid.

[Lester Tutor]

But we're not naming a 1000 fighters just Floyd.

And Manny never decline to draw blood. That just kills your whole arguement

Geez, do I have to contextualize for you? Manny never declined the 30million contract for WADA style testing in 2010?

lol. Epic fails.

[GTTofAK]

Right, just like you can prove that Floyd was doping. You're funny, kid.

Also argumentum ad ignorantiam.

[DeadLikeMe]

They look at Manny with papal infallibility. The idea that Manny would ever lie to them is completely foreign.