Comments Thread For: Hauser Hits Back at USADA Over Mayweather/IV Scandal

[radioraheem]

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/11/2...ding-into-2015

What about drug testing?

Let's end this bit right now: Pacquiao has long agreed to Mayweather's drug testing demands. Pacquiao has also undergone VADA or WADA testing for recent fights with Brandon Rios, Tim Bradley, and Chris Algieri. There is absolutely no issue with this anymore. At one time, there were some disagreements about how it would be handled, who would handle it, when the cutoff for testing would be, but this has long ago been a dead issue. People mostly want to remember the "Manny doesn't like needles" story, but this hasn't been a problem for years now.

I thought they didn't use WADA or Vada ? According to this article they do ..And why is Bradley paying out his pocket when Arum promtes them both .Seems your incooreect here ..

Top Rank no longer uses VADA for fights in NEVADA. If the fight is held outside of Nevada, like Macau, they then are willingly to use VADA even though they aren't fans of them. And it's because NSAC has no jurisdiction in China. NSAC only has jurisdiction inside Nevada.

So again, when it comes to Nevada, Pacquiao no longer uses VADA. He gets randomly tested by NSAC. Bradley pays out of pocket because Arum doesn't want VADA. Have you not seen the issue where Bradley requested VADA, and then Arum sneaked into his contract that they'd use an independent agency (but no indication of VADA?). So then Marquez and Bradley was tested through NSAC's random drug testing program. But only Bradley was also tested through VADA, and he had to pay for that out of his own pockets.

[b00g13man]

Try harder idiot and entertain me ,can't wait until you getto trash Floyd fans and pac idiots leave this site and it's coming soon you won't be missed bunch of thirsty groupies

And the tears just keep on flowing........

[imperial1]

Top Rank no longer uses VADA for fights in NEVADA. If the fight is held outside of Nevada, like Macau, they then are willingly to use VADA even though they aren't fans of them. And it's because NSAC has no jurisdiction in China. NSAC only has jurisdiction inside Nevada.

So again, when it comes to Nevada, Pacquiao no longer uses VADA. He gets randomly tested by NSAC. Bradley pays out of pocket because Arum doesn't want VADA. Have you not seen the issue where Bradley requested VADA, and then Arum sneaked into his contract that they'd use an independent agency (but no indication of VADA?). So then Marquez and Bradley was tested through NSAC's random drug testing program. But only Bradley was also tested through VADA, and he had to pay for that out of his own pockets.

You still don't make sense so then what Manny paid out his pocket as well as Bradley to use the same agency For a fight against each other ?

[b00g13man]

LMAO nice try. Trying to sneak in a an entirely different circumstance when there is an entirely separate rule that exists specifically for IV Transfusions. This 21 or 28 days you are now hanging on to specifically is the number of days an athlete must apply for a TUE before the event takes place you dumbass. And it only applies under normal circumstances. Where there is an ample amount of time before the event or contest takes place. Again there is an entirely separate page specifically for IV Infusion on USADAs website. Which you also gave in the first place LOL!

Because in case you intentionally missed it, it states on USADAs link about IV transfusion that "This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval". Again, see link:

Additionally, there was no mention of any sort of retroactive TUE on that same link. Although there was a mention of an emergency TUE. Now when we visit the WADA link that is also shown there for further details, it shows that what is actually allowed by WADA is for the retroactive application, not the granting. Here's what it says on the link for WADAs page on Intravenous Infusions and/or Injections:

"In situations of medical emergency or clinical time constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable" See link

Keyword there is retroactive application, not retroactive approval. And there was also no mention of any sort of retroactive granting or approval in that page as well. NONE. So bye

Yeah, we're done. I hope you one day figure out the definition of "retroactive".

[radioraheem]

You still don't make sense so then what Manny paid out his pocket as well as Bradley to use the same agency For a fight against each other ?

Top Rank is okay to use VADA for a fight outside of Nevada, because they have no choice in the matter at that point. So they'll foot the bill. But if the fight is in Nevada, then they use NSAC. If the fighter disagrees to NSAC, they will have to foot the bill themselves. Bradley foots the bill himself.

For Bradley vs. Marquez, it was Bradley that paid for VADA. And only Bradley was tested by VADA. This is a fact, not rumor.

[SplitSecond]

You still don't make sense so then what Manny paid out his pocket as well as Bradley to use the same agency For a fight against each other ?

It was basically set to go with VADA as the testing agency for Pacquiao-Bradley, but Arum preferred the NSAC, Pacquiao being Pacquiao said w/e. Bradley still underwent testing under VADA whilst also being tested by the NSAC's advanced random testing.

It's a wonder how a hard worker like Timothy Bradley getting tested double the amount Mayweather and Pacquiao did/do didn't require some su****ious ass retroactive TUE after waking up one morning and realizing his legs didn't work due to being suddenly blood drained. Shocking.

[imperial1]

Top Rank is okay to use VADA for a fight outside of Nevada, because they have no choice in the matter at that point. So they'll foot the bill. But if the fight is in Nevada, then they use NSAC. If the fighter disagrees to NSAC, they will have to foot the bill themselves. Bradley foots the bill himself.

For Bradley vs. Marquez, it was Bradley that paid for VADA. And only Bradley was tested by VADA. This is a fact, not rumor.

Yeah but it Vada was used for both Bradley and Manny who paid for Manny then ? Either way they are more credible than USADA

[radioraheem]

Yeah but it Vada was used for both Bradley and Manny who paid for Manny then ? Either way they are more credible than USADA

Top Rank has only allowed Pacquiao to use NSAC's random drug testing program for fights in Nevada. They are not really fans of VADA, hence the switch.

Bradley pays for VADA himself.

[radioraheem]

It was basically set to go with VADA as the testing agency for Pacquiao-Bradley, but Arum preferred the NSAC, Pacquiao being Pacquiao said w/e. Bradley still underwent testing under VADA whilst also being tested by the NSAC's advanced random testing.

It's a wonder how a hard worker like Timothy Bradley getting tested double the amount Mayweather and Pacquiao did/do didn't require some su****ious ass retroactive TUE after waking up one morning and realizing his legs didn't work due to being thoroughly blood drained. Shocking.

Well, to that degree, someone can also say, it's a wonder why Bradley fills out forms correctly and doesn't use Todoral, Licodaine, etc.

[SplitSecond]

Well, to that degree, someone can also say, it's a wonder why Bradley fills out forms correctly and doesn't use Todoral, Licodaine, etc.

Irrelevant. All legal.

TUE = so you can use/do something illegal.