Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'm Not Breaking That 50-0, Don't Worry

[2shameless]

Here's a quick list of all of the larger and ranked opponents that Marciano didn't face.

Nino Valdes [#1 in 1954] - 6'3" - 214¾lbs - (31-8-3) - 78" reach
Nino Valdes [#1 in 1953] - 6'3" - 214lbs - (26-8-3) - 78" reach
Bob Baker [#2 in 1955] - 6'2" - 219¼lbs - (44-5-1)
Dan Bucceroni [#3 in 1953] - 6'2" - 193½lbs - (46-3-0)
Tommy Jackson [#3 in 1955] - 6'2" - 199lbs - (25-4-1) - 80" reach
John Holman [#4 in 1955] - 6'3" - 205½lbs - (24-11-1)
Bob Baker [#4 in 1954] - 6'2" - 218lbs - (37-5-1)
Earl Walls [#5 in 1954] - 6'2½" - 196lbs - (32-9-0) - 78" reach
Earl Walls [#5 in 1953] - 6'2½" - 194lbs - (28-7-0) - 78" reach
Karel Sys [#5 in 1951] - 5'11" - 200½lbs - (105-12-9)
Bob Baker [#5 in 1950] - 6'2" - 210lbs - (18-0-0)
Nino Valdes [#6 in 1955] - 6'3" - 215lbs - (33-11-3) - 78" reach
Heinz Neuhaus [#6 in 1954] - 6'2" - 214¾lbs - (32-2-5)
Tommy Jackson [#8 in 1954] - 6'2" - 194½lbs - (17-3-1) - 80" reach
Heinz Neuhaus [#8 in 1952] - 6'2" - 211¾lbs - (25-1-4)
Karel Sys [#9 in 1952] - 5'11" - 211¾lbs - (110-13-9)
Young Jack Johnson [#9 in 1955] - 6'3" - 208lbs - (12-5-1)
Bob Baker [#9 in 1951] - 6'2" - 225lbs - (25-1-1)
Coley Wallace [#10 in 1953] - 6'2" - 209lbs - (20-3) - 78" reach

Some of the biggest names on Rocky's resume started out at much smaller weight classes. Archie Moore started out as a welterweight. Ezzard Charles started out as a middleweight. The truth is the truth, he wasn't known for fighting big Heavyweights.

So you're attacking Marciano for not fighting Nino Valdez, while simultaneously denigrating his win over Archie Moore less than 5 months after Archie beat Nino Valdez? Keep up the good work.

Anyhow Mayweather could go 100-0 fighting Berto level opponents, won't mean much.

[MC Hammer]

So you're attacking Marciano for not fighting Nino Valdez, while simultaneously denigrating his win over Archie Moore less than 5 months after Archie beat Nino Valdez? Keep up the good work.

Anyhow Mayweather could go 100-0 fighting Berto level opponents, won't mean much.

The guy gave you an entire list, and you can only argue with one name, at one time. Berto is the only Berto level opponent Mayweather has faced in a decade plus. It seems like you have no point

[Thaman2x]

The guy gave you an entire list, and you can only argue with one name, at one time. Berto is the only Berto level opponent Mayweather has faced in a decade plus. It seems like you have no point

^^^ THIS!!!

And if you go by his logic, people can stfu about Mayweather "Ducking" Margarito, since May dismantled Mosley right after Mosley dismantled Margarito.

[atomicsad]

Come on Floyd, there are many unworthy and sure wins out there.

[aboutfkntime]

Take some time and do some research on Marciano. He took on all top challengers without complaining. He never made stipulations. The only rules were those by the athletic commission at the time of which everyone followed with hardly ever an exception. No whining about gloves, 'my health', catchweights, all that crapola. Matter of fact, at the time CW didn't exist. And he was a small HW. Any challenger from 175 on up was on his radar and he fought them. And he wasn't brash or an ego freak. The guy was respectful to all. There were a few arguments behind the scenes, but nothing much.

Now, compare that to the Floydiots golden goose. No comparison. 49-0 Marciano, (soon to be) 49-0 Floydie, yes. But will you take a look at the level of competition and all the excuses and whining from Floydie. Geez, guy complains and has ego explosions all the time. No comparison to the true champ Marciano.

cool story bro

I hate to break it to you..... but, Mayweather > Marciano.

you need to do the bold

[aboutfkntime]

The guy gave you an entire list, and you can only argue with one name, at one time. Berto is the only Berto level opponent Mayweather has faced in a decade plus. It seems like you have no point

Also, styles make fights.

[Barcham]

The guy gave you an entire list, and you can only argue with one name, at one time. Berto is the only Berto level opponent Mayweather has faced in a decade plus. It seems like you have no point

The entire list he posted is really about 5 or 6 names, many listed numerous times. Like a petition, if a name appears more than once, the entire list is invalidated. All the duplicates need to be removed and the list presented again.

[Zaroku]

Take some time and do some research on Marciano. He took on all top challengers without complaining. He never made stipulations. The only rules were those by the athletic commission at the time of which everyone followed with hardly ever an exception. No whining about gloves, 'my health', catchweights, all that crapola. Matter of fact, at the time CW didn't exist. And he was a small HW. Any challenger from 175 on up was on his radar and he fought them. And he wasn't brash or an ego freak. The guy was respectful to all. There were a few arguments behind the scenes, but nothing much.

Now, compare that to the Floydiots golden goose. No comparison. 49-0 Marciano, (soon to be) 49-0 Floydie, yes. But will you take a look at the level of competition and all the excuses and whining from Floydie. Geez, guy complains and has ego explosions all the time. No comparison to the true champ Marciano.

I remember reading somewhere that his worst fight was beating joe Louis.

Kinda left a bad taste in his mouth. Few of those ATG trash talked. I think there are some guys that people naturally like, others they don't. If you can't make tem love you, make them hate you.

Not a bad strategy!

[elfag]

Take some time and do some research on Marciano. He took on all top challengers without complaining. He never made stipulations. The only rules were those by the athletic commission at the time of which everyone followed with hardly ever an exception. No whining about gloves, 'my health', catchweights, all that crapola. Matter of fact, at the time CW didn't exist. And he was a small HW. Any challenger from 175 on up was on his radar and he fought them. And he wasn't brash or an ego freak. The guy was respectful to all. There were a few arguments behind the scenes, but nothing much.

Now, compare that to the Floydiots golden goose. No comparison. 49-0 Marciano, (soon to be) 49-0 Floydie, yes. But will you take a look at the level of competition and all the excuses and whining from Floydie. Geez, guy complains and has ego explosions all the time. No comparison to the true champ Marciano.

His best wins are against light heavyweights who moved up. His level of competition ******. Mayweather fought an entire career facing bigger men. Marciano fought an entire career facing smaller men.

You also have problems with letting your personal preference for mayweather's promotion techniques getting in the way of judging his ability in the ring. whether theyre modest or not has no bearing on their ranking as an ATG.

[elfag]

Few of those ATG trash talked. I think there are some guys that people naturally like, others they don't. If you can't make tem love you, make them hate you.

Not a bad strategy!

Hes a defensive minded fighter without KO power at 140 and above. If he just stuck to the nice guy script Arum and DLH wanted him to follow since his TR days, he wouldnt have made even 10% of what hes made today. Playing up for the cameras and getting people to buy his PPV's just in the hopes of seeing him lose was a great strategy for a guy in his shoes.