ESPN: Mayweather/Berto shaping up to be a box office dud

[Eff Pandas]

As a fan you should care because money drives the sport, 'it's a business'.

It also sets a precedent. It's saying to promoters/fighters 'You want to host horrible mismatches? Fine, but it'll cost you'.

I hope this fight fails massively, not because I resent Floyd's success but because it'll hopefully force other fighters to think twice about hosting mismatches, something that has been a cancer to boxing the past few years.

Well lets not go that far. I don't see this costing much for anyone invested in it.

Based on the numbers for the gate Stubhub is throwing out (An avg ticket price being sold on Stubhub of $5.1k for Floyd vs Pac & $800 for Floyd vs Berto, $4.4k was the avg actual price of all tickets so lets assume that $800 price is gonna make for an actual avg price of about $690 with the same % difference between Stubhub & actual from Floyd vs Pac, from there with 16.1k total seats & 2,100 left means 14k seats sold for an avg price of approx. $690 with a total gate of $9.6M) its still the 22nd biggest boxing gate in Nevada history above such fights as Trinidad vs Vargas, Pacquiao vs Bradley I & II, Pacquiao vs Mosley, Pacquiao vs Cotto, Pacquiao vs Hatton, De La Hoya vs Chavez & Mayweathers own matches vs Ortiz & Marquez. And this is assuming zero tickets sell from now til fight time which isn't gonna happen.

I can only imagine there is a very similar PPV result where failure isn't very likely, there is only a failure vs other Mayweather productions which don't really matter anymore if this is the end of the road.

[paulf]

I'm sure it's quite a drop, but comparing it to the Pacquiao fight is poor journalism. Mayweather-Pac is an outlier, a once in a lifetime event.... they should be comparing the numbers to something like Floyd-Guerrero for a more accurate picture of how bad the fight's doing.

[Redeaux]

Well lets not go that far. I don't see this costing much for anyone invested in it.

Based on the numbers for the gate Stubhub is throwing out (An avg ticket price being sold on Stubhub of $5.1k for Floyd vs Pac & $800 for Floyd vs Berto, $4.4k was the avg actual price of all tickets so lets assume that $800 price is gonna make for an actual avg price of about $690 with the same % difference between Stubhub & actual from Floyd vs Pac, from there with 16.1k total seats & 2,100 left means 14k seats sold for an avg price of approx. $690 with a total gate of $9.6M) its still the 22nd biggest boxing gate in Nevada history above such fights as Trinidad vs Vargas, Pacquiao vs Bradley I & II, Pacquiao vs Mosley, Pacquiao vs Cotto, Pacquiao vs Hatton, De La Hoya vs Chavez & Mayweathers own matches vs Ortiz & Marquez. And this is assuming zero tickets sell from now til fight time which isn't gonna happen.

I can only imagine there is a very similar PPV result where failure isn't very likely, there is only a failure vs other Mayweather productions which don't really matter anymore if this is the end of the road.

You're right in that line of thinking (good information by the way, respect that), Mayweather is really his only competition in regards to generating profit and sales within the sport. What I was hinting at though is other fighters, who aren't of Mayweather's stature, trying to replicate that formula when they simply can't.

It's one of the things that concerns me in boxing, the methodology and entitlement of upcoming fighters, that they'll try and copy this behaviour as it becomes the new normal. Yet hopefully if they look at this in real terms (assuming it bombs, which it will) and realise the relative percentage decline, they'll be put off from taking mockery exhibition fights themselves.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Pissing & moaning as usual.....

[sicko]

As it SHOULD! It is a Weak Fight on top of the buzz being gone from both Mayweather and Pacquiao after their fight. Mayweather is retiring at the right time while I think Pacquiao will struggle to sell his next fight as well.


What is the reason to continue to watch these two now? Ready for the next ERA. This is the first Mayweather fight week I can remember in which it is just no energy towards it. Nobody Cares! All Access still doing good views on youtube because it is Free but no ***ing way I'm ordering this **** but I will watch

Cong**** on a Great Career but I am glad it is coming to a close on Saturday and now it is time to focus on the younger and NEW Talent. All seem inline to fight each other and I'm sure a lot of those fights will be for Mayweather's Vacant Belt which will make those fights even bigger!

[-PBP-]

Fat Dan with another exclusive. And all this time I expected the fight to destroy the numbers for the Pacquiao fight.

[PrBoxing88]

not surprise, but fck maywather(great boxer) but there is Felix Verdejo to watch now...

[Redd Foxx]

No reason to relish this news, it's just bad for the sport when the #1 draw declines so dramatically. He should have rematched Pac after he healed up. Might have done half the buys but even half is still several times more than this current fight. Not to mention what it does to his legacy. Do you want people's last memory of you as being someone who copped out and totally flopped?

[_original_]

No reason to relish this news, it's just bad for the sport when the #1 draw declines so dramatically. He should have rematched Pac after he healed up. Might have done half the buys but even half is still several times more than this current fight. Not to mention what it does to his legacy. Do you want people's last memory of you as being someone who copped out and totally flopped?

Yes, we'll all remember Floyd for his fight against Berto, not for any other accomplishment....

Just like Leonard and Duran are remembered for losing to Camacho and Ali is remember for the Berbick fight.

[ИATAS]

All downhill after beating Pacquiao. I figured that would be the case, regardless if it was Berto or Thurman or Garcia or Khan. Part of the reason Mayweather AND Pacquiao both were selling so much was the anticipation of the "big fight", with each fight seeming like Pacquiao/Mayweather would be right after. That went on for 5 years. With exception to the Floyd vs Canelo fight, that was a huge selling point. Now that it's over, no one has anything to look forward to. Are any of those names mentioned above big fights anyone can say has a chance of beating Floyd? Nope. Interest levels are diminished.

Not that it matters to Floyd. He made like $300 million in his past two fights or whatever insane number it ended up being.