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  • LacedUp
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    #71
    Originally posted by Red Cyclone
    Chris Algieri is a better fight than Chaves, Gavin and Jo Jo Dan
    If you think otherwise please name me one guy those three have beat that is better than Ruslan Provodnikov and pretending a mere 7lbs makes much of a difference you seen how well Algieri filled out at WW?
    Algieri is most definitely not a better fighter than Chaves

    Jesus the **** sucking is getting bad.

    I don't care what you think about 7 lbs difference. The fact is that Algieri isn't ranked at WW and shouldn't be since he doesn't have a single win at the weight.

    Algieri wasn't even top LWW and only managed to just squeeze his way into the top 5.

    "filled out" Lol - He's still a featherfisted lightwelterweight who managed to hurt Khan.

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      #72
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Algieri is most definitely not a better fighter than Chaves

      Jesus the **** sucking is getting bad.

      I don't care what you think about 7 lbs difference. The fact is that Algieri isn't ranked at WW and shouldn't be since he doesn't have a single win at the weight.

      Algieri wasn't even top LWW and only managed to just squeeze his way into the top 5.
      I didn't read one name in that you stated Chaves beat that is better than Ruslan Provodnikov?
      I wonder why that is hmmm...

      He lost to Manny Pacquiao the ranked number 2 guy in the world, Chaves has lost to Bum Bum Rios, Bradley and Thurman always fails on the big stage even against someone like Rios I mean DAMN but sure carry on selling this ****fest for Eddie Hearns hahaha!

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      • LacedUp
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        #73
        Originally posted by Red Cyclone
        I didn't read one name in that you stated Chaves beat that is better than Ruslan Provodnikov?
        I wonder why that is hmmm...

        He lost to Manny Pacquiao the ranked number 2 guy in the world, Chaves has lost to Bum Bum Rios, Bradley and Thurman always fails on the big stage even against someone like Rios I mean DAMN but sure carry on selling this ****fest for Eddie Hearns hahaha!
        Who the f cares? It's a Light welterweight fight. Besides that, algieri ran and sc****d his way through a razor sharp decision getting decked twice. Hardly impressive.

        Chaves has PROVEN to be a tough welterweight to beat against multiple welterweight opponents incl. Keith Thurman.

        Obviously you've never watched Chaves fight. That's all I can take from that.

        Which is a recurring theme with you.

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          #74
          Originally posted by LacedUp


          Yeah there was no difference at all.

          Who did you want him to fight on October 24th? I agree Chaves wasn't the best, but he was still the best available.



          Khan should just try and fight a real WW.

          Want to bet that his next fight will be against a LWW?
          I don't know why Rios started clinching but I do know why Brook did - Porter's power and ability to fight on the inside.

          But so do you.

          I'd like to see him fight Rios or Bradley - two guys who could've fought Brook, but now will most likely fight each other. :lol:1

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            #75
            Originally posted by Szef
            I don't know why Rios started clinching but I do know why Brook did - Porter's power and ability to fight on the inside.

            But so do you.

            I'd like to see him fight Rios or Bradley - two guys who could've fought Brook, but now will most likely fight each other. :lol:1
            Chaves started clinching, not Rios.

            Yeah, it had nothing to do with Porter headbutting him in the second round and then again later on and punching him behind the head more than 100 times and rushing in like a bull.

            Now, when they weren't in a clinch - Did Porter get the better of Brook? Obviously not, so what are you talking about? It's not like Brook was leaping into a clinch Wlad style.

            Yeah two guys he offered a fight who rejected it so they could fight each other in America.

            Was Rios not losing clearly to Chaves when they fought? So how can you say Rios is a better fight? #Contradiction

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            • English Lion
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              #76
              Laced up and others can try and justify the Chaves fight all they want. The truth is there is no way to justify it after he fought Jo Jo Dan and Frankie Fun Time Gavin. Diego Chaves is the kind of opponent he should of been fighting when he fought Jo Jo Dan. Khan fighting Algeri was a joke and completely bull****, as a khan fan myself i can admit he should of fought a top welterweight, although Algeri is still a better opponent than 99% of Brook's resume.

              Brook is going to fight limited opponent after limited opponent because the IBF, who are a joke organisation and have the most diabolical ratings in welterweight, are going to provide the weak and absolutely absurd fighters for Brook to defend against in Sheffield. It's a farce to be honest.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Szef
                After his mandatory, he fought Frankie Gavin.

                The #8 contender is 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights, but should be 1-2 as he definitely didn't do enough to draw with Bradley, no matter how badly Bradley was hurt in that 12th round.

                I don't care about rankings, both Wilder and Brook haven't done **** all since they won their belts.

                Molina, Gavin, Dan - they had no chance of beating respectively Wilder and Brook.

                Hence my analogy.

                Also, both Wilder and Brook said they're willing to fight the has beens that called them out - Briggs and apparently Mosley.

                No body really does unless that is all they have to cling on to.

                You see Laced Up people care about resume/s not rankings.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Who the f cares? It's a Light welterweight fight. Besides that, algieri ran and sc****d his way through a razor sharp decision getting decked twice. Hardly impressive.

                  Chaves has PROVEN to be a tough welterweight to beat against multiple welterweight opponents incl. Keith Thurman.

                  Obviously you've never watched Chaves fight. That's all I can take from that.

                  Which is a recurring theme with you.
                  Chaves gives up when the going gets tough just like he did against Thurman and he will likely do against Brook with either a legitimate quit or British stoppage.
                  On the plus side Brook can enjoy clinching with a guy who will want that type of hug wars

                  Algieri fought the number 2 guy and didn't quit, Chaves would have quit that's the difference ones a game opponent the other has no bottle.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Red Cyclone
                    Chaves gives up when the going gets tough just like he did against Thurman and he will likely do against Brook with either a legitimate quit or British stoppage.
                    On the plus side Brook can enjoy clinching with a guy who will want that type of hug wars

                    Algieri fought the number 2 guy and didn't quit, Chaves would have quit that's the difference ones a game opponent the other has no bottle.
                    Laced Up hides behind rankings and tries to make it a black and white debate when we know boxing doesn't work like that. Algieri was coming off pulling upset of the year against Provodnikov, winning a World title, but hey he wasn't ranked top 5 by whoever the f.ck, so it doesn't count.

                    Chaves has never won a World title nor ever beaten a name. He is today's Lovemore N'dou, always in tough fights, but never wins.

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                    • Szef
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Chaves started clinching, not Rios.

                      Yeah, it had nothing to do with Porter headbutting him in the second round and then again later on and punching him behind the head more than 100 times and rushing in like a bull.

                      Now, when they weren't in a clinch - Did Porter get the better of Brook? Obviously not, so what are you talking about? It's not like Brook was leaping into a clinch Wlad style.

                      Yeah two guys he offered a fight who rejected it so they could fight each other in America.

                      Was Rios not losing clearly to Chaves when they fought? So how can you say Rios is a better fight? #Contradiction
                      I was on my phone, god damn SwiftKey.

                      Everytime Porter went on the inside, Brook clinched. Now I understand why he did that, but cliniching is clinching - it's against the rules, you've told me that thousands of times.

                      When they weren't in the clinch, the bigger guy with the bigger reach got the better of it, imagine that

                      Gloves.

                      A couple of posts ago I said I rate fighter's ability more than I rate their resumes, which is true.

                      Rios has the better resume than Chaves, but he was losing to him on scorecards (we dont know how the fight would'v ended, but i'll give you that.)

                      However, Rios would be a tough match up up for Brook, he's not mobile enough to keep Bam Bam off him for the whole time, he'd get connected at some point of the fight.
                      Last edited by Szef; 09-06-2015, 01:20 AM.

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