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  • madsweeney
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    #41
    Originally posted by truefan
    I understand that you are a diehard manny fan and that's good. Let that aside for a second and just think pugilism. Manny list the May2nd fight, did not even show up. Also, people like to discredit Floyd's wins and give Manny credit. I am fair across the board. Manny beat some great champions however Floyd beat Oscar at 154, and Cotto at 154 but people discredit Flpyd win against Canelo but do not discredit Manny's win against Cotto at 145 and Oscar at 147.
    Lets get this strait, Manny showed up on May 2nd, however, he didn't come there to buzzsaw through mayweather, he chose to try to outbox/counterpunch. Made for a boring fight but its pretty plain to see what his gameplan was and he actually had pretty good success considering he was boxing against the best current boxer, however, I don't think he was ready for Floyds reach advantage. Its just like JMM getting beat up worse than any previous fight before he landed that KO, his gameplan was to KO, not strictly counterpunch.

    Oscar was just like most of the good people Floyd fought, well past their prime. Pac gets more credit only because he took the risk of jumping 2 weight classes to fight him and completely and utterly dominated him where as Floyds fight was fairly competitive. On top of that many, such as yourself, still discredit the win.

    Cotto was comfortable at 146, dropping to 145 was not an issue and lets face it 154 Cotto is well past his prime. Fighting Pac's leftovers and once again, people do discredit Pac a bit over the catch weight.

    Floyd gets **** for Canelo catchweight because for years he was talking so much crab about Pac's catchweight with Cotto. Hypocracy is why he got so much flac, well that and Canelo was hella green and obviously didn't belong on that stage.

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    • Zaroku
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      #42
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      Lets get this strait, Manny showed up on May 2nd, however, he didn't come there to buzzsaw through mayweather, he chose to try to outbox/counterpunch. Made for a boring fight but its pretty plain to see what his gameplan was and he actually had pretty good success considering he was boxing against the best current boxer, however, I don't think he was ready for Floyds reach advantage. Its just like JMM getting beat up worse than any previous fight before he landed that KO, his gameplan was to KO, not strictly counterpunch.

      Oscar was just like most of the good people Floyd fought, well past their prime. Pac gets more credit only because he took the risk of jumping 2 weight classes to fight him and completely and utterly dominated him where as Floyds fight was fairly competitive. On top of that many, such as yourself, still discredit the win.

      Cotto was comfortable at 146, dropping to 145 was not an issue and lets face it 154 Cotto is well past his prime. Fighting Pac's leftovers and once again, people do discredit Pac a bit over the catch weight.

      Floyd gets **** for Canelo catchweight because for years he was talking so much crab about Pac's catchweight with Cotto. Hypocracy is why he got so much flac, well that and Canelo was hella green and obviously didn't belong on that stage.
      Well thought out! A good read. I am a San Jose native living and working in Tokyo.

      I enjoyed your post. Thanks.

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        #43
        This fraud needs to retire after ruining the fight of the century

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          #44
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          Lets get this strait, Manny showed up on May 2nd, however, he didn't come there to buzzsaw through mayweather, he chose to try to outbox/counterpunch. Made for a boring fight but its pretty plain to see what his gameplan was and he actually had pretty good success considering he was boxing against the best current boxer, however, I don't think he was ready for Floyds reach advantage. Its just like JMM getting beat up worse than any previous fight before he landed that KO, his gameplan was to KO, not strictly counterpunch.

          Oscar was just like most of the good people Floyd fought, well past their prime. Pac gets more credit only because he took the risk of jumping 2 weight classes to fight him and completely and utterly dominated him where as Floyds fight was fairly competitive. On top of that many, such as yourself, still discredit the win.

          Cotto was comfortable at 146, dropping to 145 was not an issue and lets face it 154 Cotto is well past his prime. Fighting Pac's leftovers and once again, people do discredit Pac a bit over the catch weight.

          Floyd gets **** for Canelo catchweight because for years he was talking so much crab about Pac's catchweight with Cotto. Hypocracy is why he got so much flac, well that and Canelo was hella green and obviously didn't belong on that stage.

          Pac's win over Oscar is a joke...Dude looked unhealthy and was in no condition to fight anyone in the top ten, world champion or anything...he ven overshot the weight and weighed 147....he looked sick


          nothing about that win was impressive, it was a cherry pick gone wrong....he knew 147 would drain him that's why he fought Mayweather at 154, a small ring and with pillows on

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            #45
            Originally posted by madsweeney
            Lets get this strait, Manny showed up on May 2nd, however, he didn't come there to buzzsaw through mayweather, he chose to try to outbox/counterpunch. Made for a boring fight but its pretty plain to see what his gameplan was and he actually had pretty good success considering he was boxing against the best current boxer, however, I don't think he was ready for Floyds reach advantage. Its just like JMM getting beat up worse than any previous fight before he landed that KO, his gameplan was to KO, not strictly counterpunch.

            Oscar was just like most of the good people Floyd fought, well past their prime. Pac gets more credit only because he took the risk of jumping 2 weight classes to fight him and completely and utterly dominated him where as Floyds fight was fairly competitive. On top of that many, such as yourself, still discredit the win.

            Cotto was comfortable at 146, dropping to 145 was not an issue and lets face it 154 Cotto is well past his prime. Fighting Pac's leftovers and once again, people do discredit Pac a bit over the catch weight.

            Floyd gets **** for Canelo catchweight because for years he was talking so much crab about Pac's catchweight with Cotto. Hypocracy is why he got so much flac, well that and Canelo was hella green and obviously didn't belong on that stage.
            Looooooooooooooooooool

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            • Reloaded
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              #46
              Originally posted by madsweeney
              Lets get this strait, Manny showed up on May 2nd, however, he didn't come there to buzzsaw through mayweather, he chose to try to outbox/counterpunch. Made for a boring fight but its pretty plain to see what his gameplan was and he actually had pretty good success considering he was boxing against the best current boxer, however, I don't think he was ready for Floyds reach advantage. Its just like JMM getting beat up worse than any previous fight before he landed that KO, his gameplan was to KO, not strictly counterpunch.

              Oscar was just like most of the good people Floyd fought, well past their prime. Pac gets more credit only because he took the risk of jumping 2 weight classes to fight him and completely and utterly dominated him where as Floyds fight was fairly competitive. On top of that many, such as yourself, still discredit the win.

              Cotto was comfortable at 146, dropping to 145 was not an issue and lets face it 154 Cotto is well past his prime. Fighting Pac's leftovers and once again, people do discredit Pac a bit over the catch weight.

              Floyd gets **** for Canelo catchweight because for years he was talking so much crab about Pac's catchweight with Cotto. Hypocracy is why he got so much flac, well that and Canelo was hella green and obviously didn't belong on that stage.
              Manny gets more credit for beating Oscar 20 lbs lighter after Floyd already beat him, your outa you fckn mind and dont know a thing about this sport concerning weight , Oscar was the worst case of a dehydrated fighter in history , the 154 versions of both Oscar and Cotto would flog Manny .

              Some of you people talk utter rubbish .

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              • LA fight fan
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                #47
                only one more - please spare us anything more than that

                hopefully we will only have to hear about that lying untalented little wretch one more time at most. he can beat some no-name at a catchweight no doubt in some land far far away that no one cares about or tunes into. of course by then he will have treated his non-existent shoulder injury for the may weather fight and he will fade into obscurity as he did nothing that left any real mark and toprank can promote some other nincompoop they produce like a bad vaudeville production.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  I'd have a hard time believing the Mayweather fight wouldn't have rebounded Manny's bank account. Its rumored he's had issues with money obviously, but I've never even heard of more than a ~$18M in the hole rumor (the IRS one iirc) about Manny's money so a 9 digit check should have easily gotten him outta any hole he was in. As long as he handles the taxman, just lives in the Philippines & doesn't travel with his 90 man posse all over the globe he should be good.

                  Definitely something to say about taking another $15M-$20M fight while you still can I can't disagree with that. In particular if the Mayweather fight did get him out of debt. Might feel the need to pad things just a lil more even with that nice check cashed already.
                  Last time I heard, that's just what Manny owed the US IRS, not the Phillipines. Apparently he owed them a ridiculous amt, like don't quote me on this but way more than 20 million, I heard it got so bad they seized all his stuff until it's all settled in case they need to liquidate sum of those 500K vehicles and mansions

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                  • madsweeney
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Manny gets more credit for beating Oscar 20 lbs lighter after Floyd already beat him, your outa you fckn mind and dont know a thing about this sport concerning weight , Oscar was the worst case of a dehydrated fighter in history , the 154 versions of both Oscar and Cotto would flog Manny .

                    Some of you people talk utter rubbish .
                    20 lbs? Is this Floyd stan math?!? 154 - 145 = 9lbs, not 20. And no, he doesn't get more credit, they get about the same, however, it is considered one of Floyds best wins, not Pac's.

                    You claim I don't know **** about the sport yet where were you before the fight when everyone was saying it was a complete mis-match in favor of DLH? His plan backfired and Pac was there and ready to take advantage.

                    Cotto would lose to Manny at any weight, its a bad style for him and no matter what weight, Manny will take away Cotto's greatest strength, his jab and left hook.

                    154 Oscar that Floyd fought would have likely lost to Pac as well for the same reason he lost at 147. A converted orthodox won't give Pac issues, especially an over-the-hill who has issues with speed and can't pull the trigger. You need a good right hand to keep a prime Pac in check, neither Cotto or Oscar had that in their tool kit in their peak, let alone when Floyd fought them.
                    Last edited by madsweeney; 09-04-2015, 03:37 PM.

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                      #50
                      I highly doubt Pacquiao will retire after 1 more fight.arum wants to put crawford in with pacquiao and hopes he wins so that he can become arum's new star.

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