Roman gonzalez

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I already posted a bunch earlier in the thread.

All were former, future or current world champions.

Theres a few more on his resume who are solid top 10 comp too like rocky fuentes, fransisco rosas and edgar sosa (top 10 in ring and TBRB despite being faded).

Now explain why Brook (one semi good win), Thurman (two ok wins), Porter (one ok win) are on Gonzalez' level?

Gonzalez has 2 decent wins in Estrada, and niisdi,,, pretty much everyone else is either faded, or just not that good, fringe contender talent at best.. Some off them got their hands on paper titles like yeagshi, but that doesn't mean they are world class guys.. No different than guys like ghost or collazo that thurman has been fighting..
For the record, I do think roman is a better fighter than thurman or Brook, and that's why I have him on the back half of my top ten.. But I think he is overrated if you put him top 5 over the likes of kovolev.. Like I said before, the dude is like ggg.. Obvious talent and elite, but needs some better wins before leapfrogging guys like kovolev

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Name his best wins..

No, you name the fighters who have a better record besides Floyd/Pacquiao/Klitschko.

[Tom Cruise]

Gonzalez has 2 decent wins in Estrada, and niisdi,,, pretty much everyone else is either faded, or just not that good, fringe contender talent at best.. Some off them got their hands on paper titles like yeagshi, but that doesn't mean they are world class guys.. No different than guys like ghost or collazo that thurman has been fighting..
For the record, I do think roman is a better fighter than thurman or Brook, and that's why I have him on the back half of my top ten.. But I think he is overrated if you put him top 5 over the likes of kovolev.. Like I said before, the dude is like ggg.. Obvious talent and elite, but needs some better wins before leapfrogging guys like kovolev

Kovalev has a 50yr old hopkins as his signature win, decent win in Pascal, win over completely untested title holder Cleverly and then a few contenders. Hardly the stuff of legend yet and definitely not much better (imo not at all) than Gonzalez.

Edit: also your assesment of Gonzalez' resume is extremely harsh

[NEETzsche]

for many boxing fans, "proven" is actually synonymous with "televised"

[bojangles1987]

I caught up on him when I began hearing about him a year or two ago. I can't claim full knowledge of his career or the fighters he has beaten, but I know enough to know he's damn, damn good. Definitely one of the best fighters in the sport right now.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No, you name the fighters who have a better record besides Floyd/Pacquiao/Klitschko.

Kovolev, Ward, Rigo all have better wins and in a hypothetical h2h p4p, all three would be favored over roman..

Like I said before, roman can be p4p just not top 5.. If you are putting him top 5 then you are overrating him...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Kovalev has a 50yr old hopkins as his signature win, decent win in Pascal, win over completely untested title holder Cleverly and then a few contenders. Hardly the stuff of legend yet and definitely not much better (imo not at all) than Gonzalez.

Edit: also your assesment of Gonzalez' resume is extremely harsh

Name his best wins...

You can't tell me that roman has better wins that beat downs of hopkins and pascal.. 2 guys that have never been beaten down before. Or Rigo beating doņaire.. For the most part, roman's opponents all are guys with 4 or 5 nondescript losses, and hardly a notable win for any of them

[Fetta]

Potential is there.

Have seen him fight once live recently and since have seen a few youtubes

[nivek535]

Name his best wins...

You can't tell me that roman has better wins that beat downs of hopkins and pascal.. 2 guys that have never been beaten down before. Or Rigo beating doņaire.. For the most part, roman's opponents all are guys with 4 or 5 nondescript losses, and hardly a notable win for any of them

off-topic, call me a hater but i stll dont find rigo donaire that amazing......

[Sugar Adam Ali]

off-topic, call me a hater but i stll dont find rigo donaire that amazing......

That's fine, I get that, but if dude could land a mares or Santa cruz or quigg or frampton, would see Rigo's skills on full display