Who do you consider the top 10 P4P right now?

[nivek535]

Who beats the guys you say no to..

dunno .
floyd at 147? rigo @ 122? ward @ 168 i dunno.
but p4p? hmmmmmmm

[nivek535]

You got Fury beating Klitschko? Or you think he's retiring after? I'd love for Fury to beat Klitschko btw lol. Yeah you're right on Loma, I'm a big fan too but there's fighters that have done more in their last 5 fights, he defo has future potential to be #1 P4P though. Rigo is old and has a suspect chin but he keeps on winning so for now he has to be rated until he gets chin checked or ages bad over night.

i actually think fury will beat klitschko, and im hoping he does hahaha.
as long as he doesnt right uppercut himself.

[nivek535]

Don't know how GGG is higher than kovolev...
One has dominant wins over bernard and pascal, one has wins over geale and Murray...

to be honest, its quite difficult to tell who should rank higher..
kovalev just happened to have 2 bigger names willing to fight him haha

[nivek535]

BY THE WAY,
p4p ranking meaning...
hypothetically, kovalev beats klitschko if they were scaled to size?

so saying wlad is #2 p4p means if u take his attributes, scale to pac's size, he will beat pac?

and if u scale rigo and ggg to be same weight, rigo would beat ggg?


from what im reading on the forums right now, people are saying "floyd #1 because nobody in 147 can beat him." but what if his physical attributes right now, are scaled equal with another fighter in another division? is there still NOBODY in the entire boxing world to beat mayweather? haha

[BrometheusBob.]

Don't know how GGG is higher than kovolev...
One has dominant wins over bernard and pascal, one has wins over geale and Murray...

Probably the same reasons he's higher on The Ring, ESPN and BoxRec p4p lists . Let's not act like Pascal didn't win some rounds before he was almost put to sleep, plus Hopkins is a 95yo boxing relic who was carrying titles earned from Beibut Shumenov (via SD) and Tavoris Cloud (who hasn't won since). Golovkin has faced B level opposition in the last few years, sure, but I can't even remember the last time he lost a dam round, hasn't seen the scorecards since 2008, and is underrated from a skills perspective.

Honestly it was close for me between these two.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Probably the same reasons he's higher on The Ring, ESPN and BoxRec p4p lists . Let's not act like Pascal didn't win some rounds before he was almost put to sleep, plus Hopkins is a 95yo boxing relic who was carrying titles earned from Beibut Shumenov (via SD) and Tavoris Cloud (who hasn't won since). Golovkin has faced B level opposition in the last few years, sure, but I can't even remember the last time he lost a dam round, hasn't seen the scorecards since 2008, and is underrated from a skills perspective.

Honestly it was close for me between these two.

Kovolev and ggg are very close, but pascal and hopkins are both better than anyone ggg has beaten.. And kovolev win in dominant fashion...

Hopkins, pascal >>>>>>>>> geale, macklin, stevens, proska, Murray

[boliodogs]

I look at pound for pound as saying:

All things being equal if all these fighters were the same weight at any given moment and competed head to head, these would rise above all.

Crawford is just the goods and he'd beat most people if he fought at their weight. There are very few people I'd pick to beat him, hence he's top 10 in my books.

ur #4 5 6 7 can go..
as for walters, he seems more dependent on his power and size than actual skill... so if he loses his power at 130, then it kinda suggests his power good at a p4p level.. should see more of him..
10 lara, more of a marathon runner..
lomo hasnt done enough to prove he can deal with another salido, so he shouldnt be on it either.
santa cruz... ehhhhh, he is a 3 divisional champ... but i dunno, is he good enough at this point? feather fisted and stylistically looks limited... we'll see how he deals with something like GRJ or loma..
crawford definitely up there though.

Hey, fuc you, you bossy b*stard. Who the fuc are you to tell me to change my list? The list police? Don't you know these lists are just a matter of personal opinion and there is no right answer? No law says my list has to be the same as yours. I saw these guys fight and I'll decide where they go on MY list, not you. 4 5 6 7 all stay exactly where they are and it's tuff **** if you don't like it. If you don't think Lomo and Lara belong on a top 10 list then don't put them on YOUR list. They are staying on MY list because I don't think like you, thank god, and I don't agree with you. Crawford is not on my top 10 and I could care less if you think he is up there. Just tend to your own list and don't tell me who I should or shouldn't put on my list because it's rude and uncalled for. It implies that you are smarter on boxing than I am and you are correcting my mistakes. I don't agree with your list but I don't tell you to change it.

[nivek535]

Kovolev and ggg are very close, but pascal and hopkins are both better than anyone ggg has beaten.. And kovolev win in dominant fashion...

Hopkins, pascal >>>>>>>>> geale, macklin, stevens, proska, Murray

question, would adding cotto or broken-martinez to the right side of the inequality flip the sign?

[nivek535]

Hey, fuc you, you bossy b*stard. Who the fuc are you to tell me to change my list? The list police? Don't you know these lists are just a matter of personal opinion and there is no right answer? No law says my list has to be the same as yours. I saw these guys fight and I'll decide where they go on MY list, not you. 4 5 6 7 all stay exactly where they are and it's tuff **** if you don't like it. If you don't think Lomo and Lara belong on a top 10 list then don't put them on YOUR list. They are staying on MY list because I don't think like you, thank god, and I don't agree with you. Crawford is not on my top 10 and I could care less if you think he is up there. Just tend to your own list and don't tell me who I should or shouldn't put on my list because it's rude and uncalled for. It implies that you are smarter on boxing than I am and you are correcting my mistakes. I don't agree with your list but I don't tell you to change it.

fair enough. my bad haha.
chill out though
-signed list police

[Sugar Adam Ali]

question, would adding cotto or broken-martinez to the right side of the inequality flip the sign?

No.... Pascal and hopkins are both proven world class guys,,, beating up cotto and serg is not the same