Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Beat More World Champs, Berto Will Be 23

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #91
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    By my count;

    23-0 vs Past, present and future world champions

    14-0 vs Reigning World Champions

    12-0 vs Past, present and future Lineal Champions

    Not too bad for a coward who cherrypicks his opponents.
    Maybe, but no more impressive than Pacquiao's 8 division claim-to-fame.

    Neither should be taken too seriously.

    So, for a Pacquiao/Mayweather comparison..... breaking down those champions/divisions into relevant names, and then evaluating their worth at the time they were beaten..... adds the necessary context to compare them both.

    Not great reading for the pacfans, but that is how historians do it.

    You have to compare apples with apples, so titles/divisions are completely irrelevant if we want to compare those guys with past greats.

    We know that back in the day there were only 8 divisions and only 1 title.

    So forget divisions and titles..... and especially forget lineage and P4P.

    And also forget any other crap accolades that have popped up since.

    It comes down to one thing..... how relevant was that opponent when you beat him..... now we can compare era's.

    The trick is learning the boxing landscape, so that you can successfully evaluate the opponents, moreso than the fighters themselves.

    Continual back-n-forth debating titles/divisions is buffoonery.

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    • Jubei
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      #92
      that woman beater can defeat Petro in a fight no one cares about and then finally retire

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      • twosweethooks
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        #93
        Originally posted by wlliam
        Point being you have to open up the history books just to find a guy that can beat FMJ
        Because he ducked all the prime elites when it counted

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        • arraamis
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          #94
          Seriously - Don't you guys get tired of going through the same old routine every time Floyd makes a statement?

          You guys don't ever discuss boxing, you just type the same nonsensical shit over and over and over, thread after thread, day after day.

          The very essence of ******ation.

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          • PAC-BOY
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            #95
            Berto is a world champ?

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            • Drunk Punch
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              #96
              He always has to justify himself doesn't he? Just STFU and let history decide your place in the list of greats.

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              • Furn
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                #97
                Blatantly ducking Amir Khan twice pretty much undoes anything Floyd has achieved.

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                • PACBOY
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Furn
                  Blatantly ducking Amir Khan twice pretty much undoes anything Floyd has achieved.
                  Exactly !

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                  • ADP02
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    Golovkin fans criticising Mayweathers opponents?
                    and Floyd fans always trying to deflect .....

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                    • BrometheusBob.
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
                      I'm not sure how many former Champs he's beaten although I'm sure I can figure out but the current champs he's beaten are hernandez, castillo, baldomir, SOME say Mosely others don't. But he's also won lineal titles once at sfw, once at lightweight, 2x at ww and once at jmw. Even if u don't like the guy, that's highly impressive in this day and age. In fact, the only division where he didn't win a real belt was jww and he beat the lineal belt holder of that division anyways.
                      He fought Hatton, a natural 140lber, at 147lbs. I personally don't care much about that fact, but I thought I'd put that out there since a great deal of Pac haters take a dump on him for fighting 140 fighters at 147 (can't remember if I've seen you do that though) but never criticize Floyd for doing this with Hatton or worse with Marquez.

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