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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #111
    If he is just using 2000-2009 then I agree with him..manny was fighter of the decade..

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    • Jc8804
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      #112
      Originally posted by MarsinLeo
      Preach!

      That pony tailed donkey named Doug Fisher has been hating on Floyd since the 90s. Back when he and Steve Kim were running maxboxing.com and doing their little radio show.

      He is in no way, shape or form a credible source. The guy is dripping in biased sauce.

      Pac fans are delusional. That's all I got to say.

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      Pac was shot doe .just saying

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      • !! Shawn
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        #113
        Originally posted by lfc19titles
        He speaks the truth

        Sad part had mayweather not retired to avoid the big fights to keep his zero

        He may be top of that list right no with no contest but people will always remember him retiring for a year whilst guys like margarito and Williams vanished
        The biggest seperater between the Two is that Pacquiao fought Cotto when Floyd was suppose to and won.

        While Floyd chose to wait him out. Cotto turns out to be the 3rd most significant fighter in or around that weight class for the generation. Pacquiao fight him in his prime. Floyd waited for him to show signs of slowing.

        The context of those wins is also lost. It was like holy ****, Pacquiao is moving up to 135, I think that might be a weight too high for him. Boom destruction.
        **** Pacquiao is moving up to 140, I am not sure if he can handle Hatton at 140, boom destruction. **** Pacquaio is moving up to 147, there is no way he is gonna manage that. BOOM DESTRUCTION.

        And he was moving up against the best fighters in the world. Ive never been one to rank pacquiao highly, I always thought of him as a little bit more skilled Gatti, but he proved me wrong over and over and over again.

        The Cotto fight was when I had to finally admit to myself, this little dude can fight.

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          #114
          Originally posted by !! Shawn
          The biggest seperater between the Two is that Pacquiao fought Cotto when Floyd was suppose to and won.

          While Floyd chose to wait him out. Cotto turns out to be the 3rd most significant fighter in or around that weight class for the generation. Pacquiao fight him in his prime. Floyd waited for him to show signs of slowing.

          The context of those wins is also lost. It was like holy ****, Pacquiao is moving up to 135, I think that might be a weight too high for him. Boom destruction.
          **** Pacquiao is moving up to 140, I am not sure if he can handle Hatton at 140, boom destruction. **** Pacquaio is moving up to 147, there is no way he is gonna manage that. BOOM DESTRUCTION.

          And he was moving up against the best fighters in the world. Ive never been one to rank pacquiao highly, I always thought of him as a little bit more skilled Gatti, but he proved me wrong over and over and over again.

          The Cotto fight was when I had to finally admit to myself, this little dude can fight.
          Prime Cotto? Coming off a beating from Margarito and a debatable decision over Clottey, also at a catch-weight? Mayweather fought him at his natural weight. Mayweather fought the Mosley Pacquiao ducked and beat Hatton before Pacquiao did. As for being a little guy, he's around the same weight as Mayweather. At age 16 they were 106, age 24 and 29 they were 1lb apart on fight night weight. Pacquiao just drained more weight.





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          Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 09-01-2015, 12:19 AM.

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          • Jubei
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            #115
            what will Floyd be remembered for? Having and taking all advantages possible and caring about money and usually having boring fights that went the distance, then you know all about him beating several women and going to jail for it.

            What will Pacman be remembered for? A poor little guy from the Philippines that had nothing and become the greatest fighter of his era, a worldwide figure that transcended the sport, a politician, a likeable, humble guy who loves his fans and is loved and known even outside of boxing, and someone who become way more popular even in Floyds homecountry, the USA.

            Of course Pacman > Floyd.

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            • imperial1
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              #116
              Originally posted by Jubei
              what will Floyd be remembered for? Having and taking all advantages possible and caring about money and usually having boring fights that went the distance, then you know all about him beating several women and going to jail for it.

              What will Pacman be remembered for? A poor little guy from the Philippines that had nothing and become the greatest fighter of his era, a worldwide figure that transcended the sport, a politician, a likeable, humble guy who loves his fans and is loved and known even outside of boxing, and someone who become way more popular even in Floyds homecountry, the USA.

              Of course Pacman > Floyd.
              Preach !!!!

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              • ussy
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                #117
                Every Mayweather fan including May himself knows he beat a shot to **** Pac, I don't even include that fight when comparing the two to be honest.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  Prime Cotto? Coming off a beating from Margarito and a debatable decision over Clottey, also at a catch-weight? Mayweather fought him at his natural weight. Mayweather fought the Mosley Pacquiao ducked and beat Hatton before Pacquiao did. As for being a little guy, he's around the same weight as Mayweather. At age 16 they were 106, age 24 and 29 they were 1lb apart on fight night weight. Pacquiao just drained more weight.
                  Just to give you some info. You can actually be a prime fighter and lose (eg Cotto). Funny that you bring up Margarito and Clottey but when Floyd fought Cotto you forget about all that and that Manny also beat up Cotto beforehand. WOW! You also do not bring up that Manny fought Cotto first but you do that for Floyd's fighters like Hatton. WOW!

                  Then you do like Puggie. You bring up non-prime fighters that Floyd fought and want credit while discrediting for Manny. WOW!

                  You bring up a CW for Manny but when you bring up Hatton, you forget to mention that Hatton had to jump a division to fight Floyd. Manny fought Hatton at Hatton's best division. Also remember that Manny was yo-yoing up and down from 130 to 147 to fight some of the guys you mentioned. Not many can do that. Even Floyd goes crazy when he brings that up. That is, he says what Manny did was impossible.

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                  • therealpugilist
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    Just to give you some info. You can actually be a prime fighter and lose (eg Cotto). Funny that you bring up Margarito and Clottey but when Floyd fought Cotto you forget about all that and that Manny also beat up Cotto beforehand. WOW! You also do not bring up that Manny fought Cotto first but you do that for Floyd's fighters like Hatton. WOW!

                    Then you do like Puggie. You bring up non-prime fighters that Floyd fought and want credit while discrediting for Manny. WOW!

                    You bring up a CW for Manny but when you bring up Hatton, you forget to mention that Hatton had to jump a division to fight Floyd. Manny fought Hatton at Hatton's best division. Also remember that Manny was yo-yoing up and down from 130 to 147 to fight some of the guys you mentioned. Not many can do that. Even Floyd goes crazy when he brings that up. That is, he says what Manny did was impossible.


                    hey where have you been??? waited for the salt water to kick in?

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                    • Fetta
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by ussy
                      Every Mayweather fan including May himself knows he beat a shot to **** Pac, I don't even include that fight when comparing the two to be honest.
                      HAHAHAHA!!!

                      So sad

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