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  • bigdunny1
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    #21
    Originally posted by HanzGruber
    Stevenson and Arthur? They're both with GYM. Michel isn't gonna put his two best fighters against each other now
    So you think it is GYM? Then how do you explain the vast number of Haymon fighters not with GYM who are also not fighting each other nor are they fighting the top fighters from these rival promoters? Haymon calls the shots not GYM

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    • bigdunny1
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      #22
      Originally posted by shoog
      its what happens when the Path of least resistance mixes with shady Business and Cowardice
      Yup this is the correct answer

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      • BOMB ZQUAD
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        #23
        You know, I have feeling this fight isn't going to be any more special than his other 9 fights. Just my opinion, Barrera does not impress me

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        • HanzGruber
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          #24
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          So you think it is GYM? Then how do you explain the vast number of Haymon fighters not with GYM who are also not fighting each other nor are they fighting the top fighters from these rival promoters? Haymon calls the shots not GYM
          Some situations yes it's haymon. But Michel has two top fighters. He gains nothing from one getting kod by the other right now

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            #25
            Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
            Lmao
            Do you ever get tired of hearing that HBO needs to put this mismatch (i.e. Golovkin-Lemieux) on PPV because it doesn't have enough money left in their budget this year?

            Do you ever get tired of hearing that HBO needs to delay a matchup until next year because it doesn't have enough money left in their budget this year?

            HBO fanboys. #GetHard

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            • sicko
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              #26
              Great News! Lets Get This One Done!

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                #27
                Good fight, Barrera has power and can box. Will be a good test for Beterbiev

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                • Jewish-Reptile
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                  #28
                  When Beterbiev wins and he is mandated Kovalev is gonna be in another tricky position with an Haymon linked guy prepared to go to purses, with this Stevenson and Beterbiev purses and potential purses if Duva continues to hold Kovalev back he's likely going to end up being stripped, hopefully it does not come to that though and a deal can be worked whereby Beterbiev and Stevenson take a bigger percentage than Kovalev and his team keep to HBO's wishes.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Scott-Weiland
                    When Beterbiev wins and he is mandated Kovalev is gonna be in another tricky position with an Haymon linked guy prepared to go to purses, with this Stevenson and Beterbiev purses and potential purses if Duva continues to hold Kovalev back he's likely going to end up being stripped, hopefully it does not come to that though and a deal can be worked whereby Beterbiev and Stevenson take a bigger percentage than Kovalev and his team keep to HBO's wishes.
                    He's safe with the WBA as he's the super champion and they only enforce mandatories on the regular champion. WBO is suing Al Haymon so I doubt it will be an issue keeping that belt. IBF is the interesting one. He'll also never get to touch the WBC belt, which is also tied to lineal/RING/TBRB as Adonis is champ.

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                    • robbyheartbaby
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                      #30
                      Very well said, you explained it perfectly, Beterbiev is in a much better position going to purse bid than being an optional defence. Should Haymon win the purse bid and the fight have to go on Showtime what happens next? Politics rule boxing.

                      Originally posted by ryedes
                      why put all your fighters in one sanction instead of spreading them out. if you look at the LHW picture, he's got 3 guys in the wbc, fonfara in the wba who can get a shot for that belt soon, and beterbiev in the ibf. its all to force purse bids, the bids make more money than what duva offered. 500k plus 20-30% ppv isn't better than a russian purse bid considering for example the canadian fight with pascal was a total 6mill purse split that went 3.5mill for kovalev and 2.5 mill for pascal. that number would easily be matched on the open market for a fight in moscow while beterbiev as the mandatory would get 25% of the total purse = 1.5 million and thats without ppv being included. GYM said it had 0 to do with purse bids, but it is, as a mandatory beterbiev has a higher chance of making more than as a voluntary, especially with the russian investors willing to overpay to have this fights in russia (wlad vs povetkin at 23mill, and was ready to bid 15-18mill for wlad vs fury). haymon is gonna try to bleed duva dry in the purse bids hoping she loses or anyone other than her wins it in order to either make kovalev drop his belts much like he did for the wbc silver title, or fight off hbo vs his guys. this is all just payback for that lawsuit she filed that killed the stevenson hopkins fight after hbo chose not to match stevenson showtime offer when stevenson kovalev was being negotiated. politics everywhere

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