People complaining that a non power puncher has no power after moving up five weight classes. Ok. And he's 39. Seems like people only watched his fights at his 5th weight class and not in his prime. Weak. Mayweather is an atg. Just as Marquez is who he beat easy breezy.
Nacho is 100% correct. Stop with the technician,tactical horse**** as an excuse for avoiding a fight. You can be that but you cant go around saying your the GOAT. Make the choice. you want to be a fighter or you want to " appear" to be a fighter,which Fraud did a long time ago. If you are going to be a runner, dancer and hugger and go for 12 round boring, sleep inducing decisions you cannot be considered on an all time great fighters list because it does not consider a fundamental element of an all time great which is overcoming fear. If you embrace fear and tailor your fight style around it you have never faced it. All the all time greats have faced it. Joe Louis, Ray Robinson, Marciano, Ali, Foreman, Duran, Hearn's, Benitez, Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler, Holmes, Tyson, Trinidad, De La Hoya, Gatti, Julio Cesar Chavez, Holyfield all would be on the all time list before Fraud. Fraud takes a manufactured record and insists it means he is the GOAT but that very list shows he waited to face some fighters, avoided others, catch weights, and schedules that greatly benefitted him. These are not the movements of an all time great. They are the movements of a team which wishes to make money by manufacturing somebody as an all time great. Big difference and mainly in the size of the cajones. The names mentioned above fought everybody and anybody that was put in front of them. As a result, like true warriors they have some "L's" on their resumes. This does not make them less then Fraud it makes them more. Great champions, regardless of the circumstances " bring it" they don't negotiate away the threat. Talk all he wants but very few, history will show, will ever consider Fraud even top 15 let alone GOAT.
funny how you quoted only offensive fighters which I don't take nothing from but all got knocked the $$$K out. And they had powerrrr. Duran is a bad boy. Moving up is the key and once again doesn't seem like anyone watched may weathers fights while in his primeeee! It takes an intellect to appreciate all aspects of boxers and boxing. Haters are ignorant. Pearls before swine. Just like any sport defense is just as important and sometimes more. People forget boxing is hit and not to be hit. Sometimes boxers just don't follow the rule and make for exciting fights but don't hate on the followers of that rule. By the way all be watching both Cruz and mares and cotto Canelo. Long live boxing.
Mayweather after Mosley hurt him. His destruction of Corrales. Digging deep to make it through the first Castillo fight then easily winning the rematch. That's what we wish he would be. That's all. Not pot shotting & running. And fighting a lightweight at welterweight and not bothering to get down to the catch weight can't even be used in any atg arguments. Come on with that.
Im as big a Nacho and JMM fan as there is. But damn, JMM cant even give Floyd a good workout. With that in mind, they should STFU about his style.
As high as the combined boxing IQ between Nacho and JMM is, that didn't keep Marquez from hitting the canvas in 3 out of the 4 Pac fights. An old Floyd was never close to getting dropped by Pac. Nor did their collective knowledge keep Floyd from making him look like an amateur, after taking almost 2 years off from the sport. Nacho is still salty that his prized pupil got reduced to basically a sparring partner. Or maybe less than that, since sparring partners tend to actually land punches.
As for the typical irrational Floyd-haters (aka DLH, Hatton, Canelo, Cotto, Pacquiao fans), the object of the sport is "hit without getting hit", not "you hit me, then I hit you". If that's your preferred type of boxing match to watch, fine. But don't complain when someone actually masters the sweet science, as Floyd has.
As high as the combined boxing IQ between Nacho and JMM is, that didn't keep Marquez from hitting the canvas in 3 out of the 4 Pac fights. An old Floyd was never close to getting dropped by Pac. Nor did their collective knowledge keep Floyd from making him look like an amateur, after taking almost 2 years off from the sport. Nacho is still salty that his prized pupil got reduced to basically a sparring partner. Or maybe less than that, since sparring partners tend to actually land punches.
As for the typical irrational Floyd-haters (aka DLH, Hatton, Canelo, Cotto, Pacquiao fans), the object of the sport is "hit without getting hit", not "you hit me, then I hit you". If that's your preferred type of boxing match to watch, fine. But don't complain when someone actually masters the sweet science, as Floyd has.
Lol clinching to prevent an Opponent from punching is not a skill. You can't hype Floyd for what he did that night. He literally hugged when Pac came dangerously close. That my friend is pussay boxing. I can even do that to you, but rather not coz, I don't want to be called a pussay for doing that lol
Boxing is about Bobbing and weaving, you stick and move, Floyd didn't do a Pernell Whitaker, what Floyd did is lame boxing. Hugging it out for every chance he can take. He just defused a fight by hugging and running in the biggest event in boxing. That my friend is shameful. Tsk.tsk.tsk..
Lol clinching to prevent an Opponent from punching is not a skill. You can't hype Floyd for what he did that night. He literally hugged when Pac came dangerously close. That my friend is pussay boxing. I can even do that to you, but rather not coz, I don't want to be called a pussay for doing that lol
Boxing is about Bobbing and weaving, you stick and move, Floyd didn't do a Pernell Whitaker, what Floyd did is lame boxing. Hugging it out for every chance he can take. He just defused a fight by hugging and running in the biggest event in boxing. That my friend is shameful. Tsk.tsk.tsk..
Riiiiiiiight...
You havent noticed yet but we are talking about Floyd vs JMM.
You remember JMM right? The guy who knocked Manny into a coma.
Yeah that guy fought Floyd too. Couldnt win a single round though. Couldnt land one significant punch, actually.
Go watch that fight, in slow motion, at 720p, and come back to tell us how many clinches you "documented".
As for the typical irrational Floyd-haters (aka DLH, Hatton, Canelo, Cotto, Pacquiao fans), the object of the sport is "hit without getting hit", not "you hit me, then I hit you". If that's your preferred type of boxing match to watch, fine. But don't complain when someone actually masters the sweet science, as Floyd has.
Rigo beating Donaire was a showcase of the sweet science.
Floyd stunk up the joint.
Even Floyd Sr. was riding him for not doing enough.
I've always felt that Floyd would outclass Pacquiao ANYTIME. I just wished he had an ATG mindset to make a statement by going for a KO. Sorta like what he did against Chico.
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