Johann Duhaupas is BoxRec #34 and is very limited

[Santa_]

BoxRec rankings? Really?


They also have Mauricio Herrera ranked #16 at 140 and Saul Alvarez ranked #4 p4p in the world.


Wilder VS Duhaupas is going to be a good fight, believe me.

[The Hammer]

BoxRec rankings? Really?


They also have Mauricio Herrera ranked #16 at 140 and Saul Alvarez ranked #4 p4p in the world.


Wilder VS Duhaupas is going to be a good fight, believe me.

No.

Duhaupas is very slow and easy to hit. That's why he was chosen.

[Santa_]

No.

Duhaupas is very slow and easy to hit. That's why he was chosen.

His chin is made out of cast iron. It's going to be a War.

[The Hammer]

His chin is made out of cast iron. It's going to be a War.

Duhaupas has never fought anyone decent.

He's very slow and limited - watch one of his fights before commenting.

The cowardly fraud Wilder should be fighting his mandatory Povetkin.

[Santa_]

Duhaupas has never fought anyone decent.

He's very slow and limited - watch one of his fights before commenting.

The cowardly fraud Wilder should be fighting his mandatory Povetkin.

This is driven from pure hate.


WAR WILDER! Can't wait for this fight!





#Team Wilder
#Team Santa Cruz
#Team Haymon

[New England]

Without Haymon money and careful matchmaking, I wonder where Wilder would be ranked right now?

wilder was moved correctly in his early years as a pro.


i understand that people want him to be matched to lose, but that's not what you try and do if you're managing the career of a potential PPV attraction


HW take a long time to mature physically, particularly in teh age of the gigantic, largely immobile HW. your power and reach aren't goignt anywhere any time soon, and neither is your chin.

wilder was moved with the notion that he had virtually no amateur career, and needed to learn to box while he was on the job as a professional.


do you have any skill in evaluating talent or boxing ability? surely you can tell, then, that wilder started out as a HW with virtually no skills, and a ton of talent. his run in the american midwest, sotuh, etc, fighting cans allowed him to get pro fights, and more importatntly, learn in the gym.

he sparred klitschko, haye, and many others. he trained under marc breland, a great amateur.

in the past few fights, wilder has actually started to look like a professional boxer. he was moved correctly. he's still undefeated, has improved [though there's certainly room for more improvement,] and he's in the discussion for a major fight with klitschko, povetkin, etc.


these guys are moved with the idea that their earning potential can be maximised with proper matchmaking. they aren't moved like a 12 year old, ignorant boxing fan would like. no matchmaker or fighter is complaining when a boxer is moved properly and positioned to make multiple millions of dollars in spite of the fact that he hardly knew how to box when he turned pro.

[paulf]

Wilder is still a work in progress, much like Canelo when he first got the belt. He has only been boxing since 2005 and he needs all the experience he can get. These are dummy fights to keep him busy, put in more time in the ring, and grow his fanbase ahead of the big fights next year.

Lots of champions fight once a year, Wilder's people are moving him along a different way by keeping him active inbetween big fights.

What will you guys say when he easily beats Povetkin next year?

[MDPopescu]

Without Haymon money and careful matchmaking, I wonder where Wilder would be ranked right now?

Ring is ranking him at #2 (after Wlad and Povetkin), while Boxrec has him at #5 (after Fury and Pulev)...

[The Hammer]

What will you guys say when he easily beats Povetkin next year?

Is he waiting for Povetkin to get old?

Wilder, a 2008 Olympian, has been fighting for more than a decade. He's age 30 and isn't going to get better.

Anthony Joshua, a 2013 Olympian, who has been fighting for less time and is five years younger, is already much better.

So is Joseph Parker who is just in his early 20s.

Wilder is a fraud. World champions are supposed to fight decent opponents, not the weakest they can get the sanctioning organization to rank.

[The Gambler1981]

When Wilder started if he got a piece of the heavyweight crown it would have to be called a success to most of the standards I saw.

This is the dude that a stiff breeze is supposed to make his chin fall off and threaten his life. Stiverne was a pretty good heavy and Wilder looked amazing compared to his start.

I straight up dare any boxing fan to fish out the earliest fight you can see of his and then the Stiverne fight (or any of his later work) and say with a straight face that guy has not improved a great deal. He is not always poetry in motion but luckily for him he has learned how to make it work, and he can learn more (get better) as long as he stays serious about it. How can you say a dude that exceeded expectations and improved a ton as being moved poorly.

Honestly the people most judgmental of Wilder have been the most wrong about him.