Comments Thread For: Can Golovkin Catch the Hopkins Defense Record at 160?

[wildman]

The record still belongs to Monzon, and Golovkin has never even been in a world title fight yet. He is by far the best middleweight in the world, and will be the world champion soon. Either by beating the Alvarez-Cotto winner or if the winner ducks him and he wins the vacant belt. But let's not cave in to alphabet nonsense. Having an alphabet belt and being a world champion are two vastly different things! Never forget that. There is only one world and there can only be one world champion at any given weight at any given time. That doesn't make me a purist. That's just the way it is.

[therealpugilist]

The record still belongs to Monzon, and Golovkin has never even been in a world title fight yet. He is by far the best middleweight in the world, and will be the world champion soon. Either by beating the Alvarez-Cotto winner or if the winner ducks him and he wins the vacant belt. But let's not cave in to alphabet nonsense. Having an alphabet belt and being a world champion are two vastly different things! Never forget that. There is only one world and there can only be one world champion at any given weight at any given time. That doesn't make me a purist. That's just the way it is.

[techdude69]

If GGG stays in middleweight for a few years and continue to win and unify all the titles then he will go down in my opinion as the best middleweight of all time. He seems to be getting better each time he fights a better opponent.

[therealpugilist]

If GGG stays in middleweight for a few years and continue to win and unify all the titles then he will go down in my opinion as the best middleweight of all time. He seems to be getting better each time he fights a better opponent.

There isn't the kind of talent in this era for him to seriously be considered the best middleweight of all time


Also he doesn't have the talent to say he is the best middleweight of all time....he is like 33 or 34 and in 30+ fights his resume isn't that great. Knocking out club fighters and fringe contenders isn't exactly showing his worth. I like what he brings to the table, likeable guy, power, and excitement but his resume in thin as Lebron's hair line

[13777]

Golovkin was promoted to WBA regular paper peasant champion in december 2010, as Felix Sturm was promoted to be the real "Super WBA" titleholder.

Felix Sturm lost the true WBA belt to Daniel Geale on september 2012, the day GGG demolished Grzegorz Proksa in his American debut.

Geale fought Anthony Mundine on January 2013, the WBA in response stripped Geale of the title. Golovkin was made the sole WBA champion as of the GGG vs Nobuhiro Ishida fight in March 2013.

Lemieux is his 9th WBA defense as true WBA champion. It's his 12th IBO defense. It's his 5th defense of the true Super WBA middleweight title.

[techdude69]

There isn't the kind of talent in this era for him to seriously be considered the best middleweight of all time


Also he doesn't have the talent to say he is the best middleweight of all time....he is like 33 or 34 and in 30+ fights his resume isn't that great. Knocking out club fighters and fringe contenders isn't exactly showing his worth. I like what he brings to the table, likeable guy, power, and excitement but his resume in thin as Lebron's hair line

Check out he's amateur resume, 350 plus fights. He's never been koed or even knocked down as an amateur or professional. I think he's record is amazing. Give it a few more years of this KO run and then see what you think.

[therealpugilist]

Check out he's amateur resume, 350 plus fights. He's never been koed or even knocked down as an amateur or professional. I think he's record is amazing. Give it a few more years of this KO run and then see what you think.

he could have had 1000 amateur fights doesn't mean the success will translate into the pros....the style is totally different, most of them don't sit down on their shots, etc


Look at guys like Mark Breland, Donald Curry, Howard Davis Jr......they were the best amateur fighters of their era but were only good or very good I the pro ranks

[Eastcoast]

Check out he's amateur resume, 350 plus fights. He's never been koed or even knocked down as an amateur or professional. I think he's record is amazing. Give it a few more years of this KO run and then see what you think.

Yeah that just translates to his amateur greatness. Felix Savon could arguably be one of the greatest HW's of all time otherwise, but he's not.


Golovkin is a victim of politics. He shouldn't have to move up to 168lbs to validate his greatness at 160lbs, but he's been deprived of the meaningful fights. Sturm, Martinez, N'Dam, Quillin have all out right ducked him.

Think back to Charley Burley, one of the greatest MW's to ever live, yet he never received a title shot or major fight due to politics. Harry Greb almost never got his title due to the mob refusing to let him fight Wilson. Greb stayed busy and fought MW's & LHW's like Tunney.

[GMAN SUPREME]

There isn't the kind of talent in this era for him to seriously be considered the best middleweight of all time


Also he doesn't have the talent to say he is the best middleweight of all time....he is like 33 or 34 and in 30+ fights his resume isn't that great. Knocking out club fighters and fringe contenders isn't exactly showing his worth. I like what he brings to the table, likeable guy, power, and excitement but his resume in thin as Lebron's hair line

I believe when golovkins career is over he will go down as one the best middleweights of all time and will have broken hopkins title defense record.

[bopbopbbe]

he could have had 1000 amateur fights doesn't mean the success will translate into the pros....the style is totally different, most of them don't sit down on their shots, etc


Look at guys like Mark Breland, Donald Curry, Howard Davis Jr......they were the best amateur fighters of their era but were only good or very good I the pro ranks

The difference is Golovkins style is clearly better for the pro ranks than the amateurs and STILL had that am record.