Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo: Haymon Gets Bad Rap, Gets Job Done

[Eff Pandas]

Haymon is a gift and a curse. If you like seeing your favorite fighter signed with him getting big checks he's good, if you expect fighters to pursue legacy type of careers he's bad.

I think PBC is being judged too harshly on this. Anyone putting on as many fights as Haymon isn't gonna hit homeruns every time out & your name guys have gotta get paid no matter what.

I think TR paid Bradley $5M to fight the ghost of Joel Casamayor at one point & there are numerous examples of guys getting a mill plus vs no hope opponent fights outside of PBC. If you are dogging some PBC cards go look at some GBP & TR off-HBO, lesser channel type shows. Some of those shows make the average PBC show look like a Don King 90's PPV card.

If any entity is putting together big fights in boxing I think doing it one big fight a month is a more than fair goal to achieve & the only one working at a high level right now is HBO. So PBC, which has been around since March, is only putting on less elite level fights than HBO which is unarguable king of boxing still.

March had Keith Thurman vs Robert Guerrero
April had Danny Garcia vs Lamont Peterson
June had Shawn Porter vs Adrien Broner
August has Leo Santa Cruz vs Abner Mares

Thats 4 elite level fights in 6 months. And I think there have been several fights I'd put just under elite level like Quillin vs Lee, Khan vs Algieri & Dirrell vs DeGale & you might be able to argue them on the elite level, but I won't bother it. I can't imagine many other en****** have even put 4 top ten caliber fights in the last 6 months besides HBO.

[Eff Pandas]

One thing I'll never understand is how promoters now have fanboys and "haters".

**** thats good. It shows the people who are putting fights on are being held accountable for their bs or hyped for their good fights they put together. In a sport that doesn't have one unified entity I think this is standard & needed tbqh.

[Eff Pandas]

Haymon has done nothing but further isolate the sport. Many fights have not and wont get made because of him.

Many fights have not & weren't made before him. Thats unfortunately part of the sport pre-Haymon & continues to be a problem. This has zero to do with Haymon, Haymon is just following the current constructs of the sport like everyone else is doing 90% of the time.

What Haymon is trying to do is a hostile takeover of the sport and I dont see it succeeding. He doesnt have enough if any star power in his stable.

Hopefully this is what he's attempting. And obviously it could fail. Its some risky ass ****. Thing is boxing needs a hostile takeover & if Haymon fails someone else will succeed later on probably learning from Haymon's & PBC's mistakes. The star power is a legit concern, but I believe the 2-3yr plan is to acquire talent as promoter deals end. Seems like Mikey Garcia will be with PBC once he figures out his TR **** if the rumors are true. Demetrius Andrade has openly talked about joining PBC. I see PBC making some key pick ups over the next 2-3yrs. If the up & coming names & the already name guys are being reported as re-upping with their current promoter now & in 2016, 2017 those are basically L's for PBC imo.

[Jsmooth9876]

Every promoter have done what you say haymon is doing, you have Bradley who can't get a fight with anyone if they not with top rank he has a mando against sadam Ali a golden boy fighter and arum won't even try and make fight so cut the crap with the bias talk all those dudes do something none of them is better then others

Yet he's gonna fight Brook for a title..go figure...

[36Chambers.]

Haymon definitely is getting a bad rap, but horrible logic by Charlo. "Haymon got me a title shot so he's good for boxing" verbatim is like saying "I know people love to talk **** about this Hitler cat, but he bought me a car when I turned 16 so I think he's fantastic".

Lmao man that analogy had me dying.

[fredhopple]

Haymon misleads these poor boxers and fools them

These clueless misguided boxers who sign with haymon just have zero guidance and no support group to help them in life. Skinny bucktooth haymon takes advantage of these poor kids and basically makes these boxers ****** on the haymon Plantation of boxing working as field hands doing Haymons bidding. Greed rules boxing these days and boxing is comprised of life's throw away kids those with poor upbrings and no parental guidance or role models. Sad but that is life in the hood. Haymon is like a big buzzard swooping down on boxing's road kill for a feast on the rotting carcass's of poor boxers. Deal with it.

[Eff Pandas]

These clueless misguided boxers who sign with haymon just have zero guidance and no support group to help them in life.

Who's looking after fighters who's a power broker in the sport? No one thats who. Its a business with very loose morals & some guys take advantage of that more than others, but I don't think Haymon is the biggest abuser by any means. Arum has had more serious disputes with fighters recently & historical than Haymon. Don King has been in court more than Gloria Allred with his current or former fighters. Guys have left Haymon with lil fanfare. No one has accused Haymon of Don King like fleecing & he's been working with Mayweather for awhile & if there is anyone you'd wanna fleece if you had those types of designs Mayweather would be your ideal mark as Tyson was for King.

Greed rules boxing these days

Greed rules the world these days.

Haymon is like a big buzzard swooping down on boxing's road kill for a feast on the rotting carcass's of poor boxers. Deal with it.

From all accounts, pro-Haymon & anti-Haymon people, Haymon is paying guys more than anyone else. So he's a ****ty vulture in comparison to the other vultures in boxing thats for sure.

[MASTERBX]

irrelevant

Haymon doesn't get a bad rap by people that matters.
The people that hate Haymon are irrelevant.

[peplz]

And fighter's purses benefit you as a fan how?

It benefits me by the fact that I am a fan who enjoys watching what they do and in a capitalist society one must get paid to do anything for a living. Therefore them getting paid benefits me. And as a decent human being I like to see other people do well. I know that's probably not an easy concept for the average person\hater to grasp.

[turnedup]

For people like you it's only about your favorite fighter while it pleases some of us to see fighters getting paid well in general. It's called being a true fan of the sport. All of the rest of the stuff you were rambling about is gossip that TRUE FANS OF THE SPORT don't care about.
P.S. Please take Jack Johnson off of your avatar and go and watch Unashamedly Black. Realize that people like you were the ones that hated Jack Johnson the most.

People like me? What a crock of shh. First my man you don't know who in the *** I am and you are doing a whole lot of assuming in the process. People like me halted Jack Johnson..really. You know what type of "people I am" over the net right dipshhh. The funny thing is you cok suckers that run around here ****ing your chests announcing I'M A TRUE FAN aren't shhhh but phonies. Any real fan of boxing would never call himself an expert at shhh, even the late great E.Steward considered himself a student despite decades in the game. So you can take all that "I NEED TO FEEL SPECIAL" 12 year old girl bullshh to the nearest flag pole and ride it til your @ss goes raw. Tell us when was the last time your obnoxious lying @ss bothered going to see an amateur fight. I'll wait..oh that's right if it ain't on tv it isn't boxing..