Comments Thread For: Khabib's Promoter Praises Haymon on Broner, Jabs Arum

[hitking]

The point is that most fighters need belts in order to make good fights a reality. When those fighters are denied chances to win those belts, it's a bad thing and fans should care.

Floyd Mayweather doesn't need belts, but Keith Thurman does. Cotto doesn't, but Golovkin does.

I understand where you're coming from. But I think you lose sight of the fact that boxing is basically a cult sport nowadays with a cult following. Very few fighters reach a point in their career where non-fight fans know, or care who they are. And me personally, and all the hardcore fight fans I know. There's not a fighter on this planet that needs a belt to gain our attention and create demand. Lucas Matthysse is a prime example. Has never held a belt. Has regularly gotten good fights. And he's never had as much buzz as GGG. You spoke about Thurman. What would attract more buzz. Defending a paper trinket that nobody cares about or acknowledges anyway? Or, moving up and fighting guys like Lara or Andrade?

[aboutfkntime]

The fighters can do or think whatever they want. In my own lil personal boxing universe, belts have ZERO to do with how I rate fighters. And they have ZERO to do with fights I wanna see and the reasons why I wanna see those fights.

Example, this fight with AB is a top 10 jr welterweight fighting a fringe jr welterweight. Just because they put "title fight" on the fight poster doesn't make me view it any differently.

Another example, GGG-Lemieux. Its IMO the best middleweight in the world and a supposed elite fighting a guy that's been KO'd and beaten by C level competition. Just because they put "unification fight" on the fight poster doesn't make me view the fight any differently.

Fkn good post !

Amen to that !

I agree 100% man.

It would not surprise me at all if casual fans looked at your post and did not understand a single thing you wrote.

And that, is where most of the confusion/arguments come from on this board...... some people (experienced) just have a deeper level of insight.

The belt situation has been like that for decades.

Casual fans haven't clicked yet.

And then they throw in lineal, just to fcuk each other right up and really confuse things lol.

Remove belts, remove lineal, get your knowledge up, and it all becomes clear.

[aboutfkntime]

The point is that most fighters need belts in order to make good fights a reality. When those fighters are denied chances to win those belts, it's a bad thing and fans should care.

Floyd Mayweather doesn't need belts, but Keith Thurman does. Cotto doesn't, but Golovkin does.

I completely disagree.

Thurman doesn't need belts LOL.

He needs quality wins.

If fighters focus on quality wins, the accolades/trinkets will follow.

And then, the accolades/trinkets will be deserved and relevant.

And the same applies to Golovkin.

Guys with quality wins are better than belt-holders that have done little/nothing.

[bojangles1987]

I completely disagree.

Thurman doesn't need belts LOL.

He needs quality wins.

If fighters focus on quality wins, the accolades/trinkets will follow.

And then, the accolades/trinkets will be deserved and relevant.

And the same applies to Golovkin.

Guys with quality wins are better than belt-holders that have done little/nothing.

Golovkin needed a belt to give anyone any reason to fight him. Macklin would never have fought Golovkin without a belt on the line. Thurman still needs his belt because without it there are too many easy excuses not to fight him.

World titles are still precious to fighters because most need them.

[Jsmooth9876]

So Haymon was willing to put Broner in with a guy who hasn't fought in a year and a half and has 9ko's in 20 fights and it's for a title... Shocking...

[jas]

Broner won't beat khabib

More bad matchmaking for broner

Khabib is very strong mentally

Won't stop coming

High guard

Excellent stamina

Open to the body

From what I remember watching him vs vargas

[aboutfkntime]

Golovkin needed a belt to give anyone any reason to fight him. Macklin would never have fought Golovkin without a belt on the line. Thurman still needs his belt because without it there are too many easy excuses not to fight him.

World titles are still precious to fighters because most need them.

Fighters need them becasuse casual fans still think that a title holder is a champion.

I dont need them.

[King_]

What a poor excuse. Khabib should drop this "promoter" of his, who wouldn't do his job in getting his fighter a fight and would now rather blame another person for their lack of effort. If Haymon wouldn't have given Team Khabib a call, Khabib would probably still be MIA no thanks to Vladimir "I'm-better-at-pointing-a-finger-than-picking-up-a-phone" Hryunov.

Khabib was signed with Top Rank when he fought Vargas..

[The Gambler1981]

Men make the titles, titles don't make the man.

Obviously titles do still have some value in the sport, but the degree obviously varies. Whoever wins this fight is in solid position but the title doesn't mean that much, the winner would have to go on and do things for the title to really have meaning.

Sure it is not ideal but as long as the winner doesn't Quillin up his title and really pretend to be something they aren't (without lining up other good fights after) then it is not that big of a deal. If they just sit on the belt fighting the Hank Lundy's of the world while claiming to be beast mode
champion of the class, that is when issue really come up.

[aboutfkntime]

Men make the titles, titles don't make the man.

Obviously titles do still have some value in the sport, but the degree obviously varies. Whoever wins this fight is in solid position but the title doesn't mean that much, the winner would have to go on and do things for the title to really have meaning.

Sure it is not ideal but as long as the winner doesn't Quillin up his title and really pretend to be something they aren't (without lining up other good fights after) then it is not that big of a deal. If they just sit on the belt fighting the Hank Lundy's of the world while claiming to be beast mode
champion of the class, that is when issue really come up.

real good post !