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    by David P. Greisman - One thing young writers are taught to steer clear of is including too much inside baseball in their stories. No one wants to know how the proverbial sausage is made. Too much process bogs down the narrative. It’s far more important to cover what has happened and then what that means.

    Boxing articles occasionally require an exception to that rule.

    So much of what happens (or doesn’t happen) in the ring is because of what happens (or doesn’t happen) outside of it. Fighting itself is simple. It’s just two people in a ring trying to hit each other. But the sport of boxing is complicated, driven — sometimes into the ground — by machinations, negotiations, competition, contractual obligations, inclinations and injuries.

    Some of that goes on behind the scenes. The rest is increasingly seen, with the business of boxing getting in the way of the sport. In recent years that has involved the battles between Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank, as well as the competition between networks HBO and Showtime. But the driving force in boxing these days is Al Haymon, whose influence has become incredibly outsized, whose roster of fighters continues to expand to around 200, and whose “Premier Boxing Champions” is on a number of networks.

    He not only has an influence on those working with him. He also has an effect on those who don’t. And it is because of this that we tend to spend so much bandwidth on how the sausage is made.

    The figurative process is similar to the literal one: It isn’t pretty.

    Two weeks ago, Sergey Kovalev made short work of the mandatory challenger to one of his three world titles, Nadjib Mohammedi. Afterward, one potential name mentioned for Kovalev’s next fight was Artur Beterbiev, an accomplished amateur and two-time Olympian who turned pro in 2013 and has moved up in the light heavyweight ranks after nine wins in the paid ranks. [Click Here To Read More]

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    Chilemba passes, Fonfara passes for the WBC... I think Monoghan will too to try and get Braehmer and Bob knows he won't win.... then it'll go back to Main Events with Sullivan Barrera and they'll take the fight

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    • #3
      I don't believe Kovalev's HBO contract would force him to vacate the IBF title if Beterbiev became his mando and Gym/Haymon won the purse bid.

      This would be a completely different situation to the Kovalev/Stevenson farce. There, Kovalev was Stevenson's mando, not the other way round. He had a choice on whether to withdraw from the bid or not, without losing any of his belts.

      He doesn't have any choice when it comes to fighting his own mando's, and his contract with HBO must surely take that into account.

      And even if they do have the legal right to sue him for fighting a mando on another network, which I doubt, it wouldn't be in HBO's interest to do that. Kovalev is one of their poster boys. Forcing him to vacate one of his titles because of his contract with them would be very bad for HBO's image and standing within the sport.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        I don't believe Kovalev's HBO contract would force him to vacate the IBF title if Beterbiev became his mando and Gym/Haymon won the purse bid.

        This would be a completely different situation to the Kovalev/Stevenson farce. There, Kovalev was Stevenson's mando, not the other way round. He had a choice on whether to withdraw from the bid or not, without losing any of his belts.

        He doesn't have any choice when it comes to fighting his own mando's, and his contract with HBO must surely take that into account.

        And even if they do have the legal right to sue him for fighting a mando on another network, which I doubt, it wouldn't be in HBO's interest to do that. Kovalev is one of their poster boys. Forcing him to vacate one of his titles because of his contract with them would be very bad for HBO's image and standing within the sport.
        Purse bids>exclusive deals if krusher drops title it's because duva and HBO told him too,if they lost purse bid the winner can put it on any channel they chooses and up to fighter team and in this case since the exclusive deal network to accept terms or pull they fighter out I don't know why people complain about this particular situation when duva took it this far with trying get Stevenson stripped in first place

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        • #5
          Kovalev is a boxing champ and Skinny Haymon a pimp

          Kovalev fights and has the title and is willing to fight anyone. haymon is a pimp giving advice to ignorant coloreds without a brain and rudderless. haymon is ruining these kids who he signs and manipulates and controls to his benefit only. Haymon is more Don King a clown who is laughed at. Kovalev is respected. Big difference.

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          • #6
            Kovalev isn't going to drop any of his titles...I think he let his promoter do what they had to do with the Stevenson situation, but that was probably the only pass him and Klimas are going to give them...or else he will miss out on a lot of money. if there is another purse bid situation, I can see Main Events partnering with one of the big russian promoters to make sure they don't lose it...thats what they shouldve done with stevenson in the first place.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fredhopple View Post
              Kovalev fights and has the title and is willing to fight anyone. haymon is a pimp giving advice to ignorant coloreds without a brain and rudderless. haymon is ruining these kids who he signs and manipulates and controls to his benefit only. Haymon is more Don King a clown who is laughed at. Kovalev is respected. Big difference.
              Posts like this are why so many of us think the attacks on Al haymon are purely motivated by his color and nothing else.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                Posts like this are why so many of us think the attacks on Al haymon are purely motivated by his color and nothing else.
                It didn't even make sense and he praising a known racists so that goes to show a lot about him, I stay out of boxers and promoters personal business nothing to do with me they all have a pass idk why these dudes pick and choose what they want to accept boxers and then try and trash other boxers or promoters when they all do, did, or say ***ed up ****

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                  Purse bids>exclusive deals if krusher drops title it's because duva and HBO told him too,if they lost purse bid the winner can put it on any channel they chooses and up to fighter team and in this case since the exclusive deal network to accept terms or pull they fighter out I don't know why people complain about this particular situation when duva took it this far with trying get Stevenson stripped in first place
                  What I'm saying is that I think the situation with purse bids and contracts is different when it comes to a champion fighting his own mandos, rather being mando for another champ.
                  Last edited by kafkod; 08-10-2015, 09:30 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    Posts like this are why so many of us think the attacks on Al haymon are purely motivated by his color and nothing else.
                    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                    It didn't even make sense and he praising a known racists so that goes to show a lot about him, I stay out of boxers and promoters personal business nothing to do with me they all have a pass idk why these dudes pick and choose what they want to accept boxers and then try and trash other boxers or promoters when they all do, did, or say ***ed up ****
                    Don't take anything that guy says seriously. He's posted here using a few different names and is nothing but a troll trying to annoy people and provoke a reaction.

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