if there was 1 champions per division who would they be ???

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  • fourtheboys96
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    #21
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    Just reposting...cos I see people ranking Loma as the champ at feather, why? Hasn't Walters done more? Hasn't Selby beaten a better fighter for his title? Cmon guys, give me reasons.
    The question something like who would come out as the winner if a super 6-like tournament is held.

    In the featherweight, it would come down to Walters or Loma.

    Walters beat some names in darch and nonito but those two are former flyweights. And considering how big Walters is, you have to wonder if he won due to size advantage.

    Loma has very few fights as a pro but I think many people see a very huge upside.

    Personally, I favor Loma over Walters. Skills will bring him the win.

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    • New England
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      #22
      lara is not the champion at 154 over floyd mayweather

      dude lost to alvarez, who floyd shut out.

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        #23
        Originally posted by New England
        lara is not the champion at 154 over floyd mayweather

        dude lost to alvarez, who floyd shut out.
        having to actually consistently fight top 154s is much different from a one off catchweight bout...

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          #24
          200 is perhaps the toughest to answer with lots of scary prospects, 2 vulnerable champions who seem to exist in different dimensions, and everyone "saving themselves up" for big fights.. hopefully when it rains it pours

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            #25
            Pretty much the same as everyone else's with the exception Canelo over Lara, as he already beat HIM.

            Huck is lineal I believe but I don't rate him at all, I'd go with Usyk to usurp all of them within a 1-2 year, hell I expect Chakhkeiv to beat Huck. Some great match ups to be had in that division, Huck has always said he'll move up and a Klitschko fight is inevitable.

            And personally I'd expect Lomachenko to whup anyone around him, give him time.

            The rest is pretty straight forward.

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              #26
              La Maquina > 140

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                #27
                Originally posted by Cruisin'
                having to actually consistently fight top 154s is much different from a one off catchweight bout...

                for starters, floyd mayweather has fought several times at 154, and it wasn't always at a catchweight.

                were you not watching boxing when floyd beat cotto for the lineal title at 154?

                or when lara almost lost to alfredo angulo?

                or when alvarez BEAT HIM?


                what makes him 154 lb champion?
                you like him? what wins does he have?

                a draw against molina? win against hte great delvis rodriguez? a draw against vanes? the great ishe smith?

                he beat austin trout in '13, and I LIKE HIM, therefor he's the champ!


                the only thing somebody can claim about that championship is that floyd is inactive at the weight, and that canelo actually beat lara at 155 lbs.

                those two things don't make erislandy lara, an extremely overrated fighter if you look at his resume and performance, a champion. you can aruge that the lineage for that championship should be vacant. unless floyd fights again at the weight, it's vacant. you can't argue that lara should be the champion, when he's done nothing since losing to canelo.

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                • techliam
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by New England
                  for starters, floyd mayweather has fought several times at 154, and it wasn't always at a catchweight.

                  were you not watching boxing when floyd beat cotto for the lineal title at 154?

                  or when lara almost lost to alfredo angulo?

                  or when alvarez BEAT HIM?


                  what makes him 154 lb champion?
                  you like him? what wins does he have?

                  a draw against molina? win against hte great delvis rodriguez? a draw against vanes? the great ishe smith?

                  he beat austin trout in '13, and I LIKE HIM, therefor he's the champ!


                  the only thing somebody can claim about that championship is that floyd is inactive at the weight, and that canelo actually beat lara at 155 lbs.

                  those two things don't make erislandy lara, an extremely overrated fighter if you look at his resume and performance, a champion. you can aruge that the lineage for that championship should be vacant. unless floyd fights again at the weight, it's vacant. you can't argue that lara should be the champion, when he's done nothing since losing to canelo.
                  Floyd Cotto was not for the lineal title. The lineage was established with Floyd-Canelo

                  But I agreed with Lara for a mixture of reasons you've already pointed out. Canelo-Lara was a fight at Caneloweight... and in a discussion about divisional champions, we should all be discrediting Canelo for trying to make an absurd weightclass. He may well beat him at 154, but he hasn't. Also, lest we forget that Lara-Canelo was split in terms of victor, but ill just use 'official' decisions for arguments sake

                  Floyd should have been stripped a long time ago. For this thread, I used either the no.1 fighter of the division, or the person with the best wins at the weight (the flawed lineal system doesn't always represent the best fighter, like ABC titles) to determine my list. Given Floyd doesn't fight at 154 (or hasn't for along time), nor does Canelo, Lara was the no.1 fighter for me to pick.

                  Youre right if this thread is solely about lineal champions then. It should be vacant

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Wlad
                    idk
                    Kovalev
                    Ward
                    GGG
                    Mayweather
                    Mayweather
                    Crawford
                    Bey
                    Fortuna
                    Featherweight is stacked - idk, a bunch of good fighters here - Loma or Walters
                    Super BW - Another good div but Rigondeaux takes them all

                    That's as far as I go.
                    Fortuna?

                    Bey?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Scott-Weiland
                      Pretty much the same as everyone else's with the exception Canelo over Lara, as he already beat HIM.

                      Huck is lineal I believe but I don't rate him at all, I'd go with Usyk to usurp all of them within a 1-2 year, hell I expect Chakhkeiv to beat Huck. Some great match ups to be had in that division, Huck has always said he'll move up and a Klitschko fight is inevitable.

                      And personally I'd expect Lomachenko to whup anyone around him, give him time.

                      The rest is pretty straight forward.
                      Theres no real universal lineage for Cruiserweight atm. Some places see Hernandez as a lineal champion (RING, Boxingscene) but others do not (CBZ, TBRB). The issue lies solely with a dispute in rankings. I saw Huck/Hernandez as the rank 1 and 2 fighters, but Cliff Rold of NSB ranked Hernandez and Cunningham that way. I personally have a gripe with that because the lineage seemed to have been awarded in their immediate rematch, but not their first fight. It was during this time Huck challenged Povetkin at HW, and it seems absurd to unrank him based on 1 'testing the waters' fight, one he arguably won too.

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