Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
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After beating Joe Frazier and George Foreman in 74, Ali fought Chuck Wepner
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Just for comparison's sake... Mayweather/Cotto was 60/70 bucks SD/HD
Mayweather/Berto is 65/75 bucks SD/HD
Mayweather/Canelo has the same price tag as this fight right now.
He can do what he wants... Berto was gonna get criticized no matter what....but the price points is killing it
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Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Posta couple of floyd nuthuggers giving you green k and internet props doesnt change the facts, you were given a history lesson in here by a number of posters
bad comparison, don't be so hard headed, go back to the drawing board
No he wasn't given a history lesson either~ and acting like he did doesn't make that so either.
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Originally posted by superchamp View PostAt the time, perhaps Diego Corrales would have been semi-comparable. He was 33-0 (27 KOs), was destroying everybody, and was the favourite in the Mayweather fight.
Mayweather also beat a bigger undefeated Canelo who everyone thought he wouldn't fight, a bigger Mosley who everyone thought he wouldn't fight, a bigger Cotto who everyone thought he wouldn't fight, and an undefeated Hatton.
He also rematched the two guys that people thought gave him trouble and beat them more decisively.
I'm not saying that his resume is as good as Ali's, but it's definitely not a joke. He hasn't fought a real soft touch in 10 years (since Brusseles), whereas Ali fought all kinds of guys that really had no business being in the ring with him after the Foreman fight: Wepner, Young, Coopman, Evangelista, Bugner, Dunn and even Leon Spinks.
You named a bunch of shot, over the hill fighters and one guy who was still green and weight drained
Ali fought a genuine killer.
Floyd should have fought Pac 5 years earlier, before Pac was knocked out unconscious, back when Pac was walking through everyone.
Floyd also used various excuses to duck boxers like Margarito
The only way Floyd can now redeem himself is to move up and fight Triple G at Middleweight, with no CW, then maybe he will crack the top 20 all time greats.
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Originally posted by Hougigo View PostJust for comparison's sake... Mayweather/Cotto was 60/70 bucks SD/HD
Mayweather/Berto is 65/75 bucks SD/HD
Mayweather/Canelo has the same price tag as this fight right now.
He can do what he wants... Berto was gonna get criticized no matter what....but the price points is killing it
thats a good point...this fight should have been a throwback $49.99 ppv
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Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Postspot on....Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Posta couple of floyd nuthuggers giving you green k and internet props doesnt change the facts, you were given a history lesson in here by a number of posters
bad comparison, don't be so hard headed, go back to the drawing board
Bottom line is this:
Ali fought Chuck Wepner after Foreman.
PBF fought Andre Berto after Pacquiao.
Both were undeserving opponents and both were big let downs compared to the huge fights that occurred just prior. Sure, you have a few people saying "the era was different" and make general excuses as to why Ali fought someone as terrible as Chuck Wepner, but in the end he fought him, that's a fact. You can have difference of opinions as to why and how it's different, but that certainly doesn't mean the fight didn't happen now does it?
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Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View PostHistory lesson? Don't think so.
Bottom line is this:
Ali fought Chuck Wepner after Foreman.
PBF fought Andre Berto after Pacquiao.
Both were undeserving opponents and both were big let downs compared to the huge fights that occurred just prior. Sure, you have a few people saying "the era was different" and make general excuses as to why Ali fought someone as terrible as Chuck Wepner, but in the end he fought him, that's a fact. You can have difference of opinions as to why and how it's different, but that certainly doesn't mean the fight didn't happen now does it?
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