Did PBC kill Showtime Boxing?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #21
    Espinoza got the job because he was GBP's lawyer and ShowTime was working with GBP fighters. Was he even qualified?

    I think the fallout from the GBP/Haymon lawsuit really hurt showtime.

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    • KnockoutKings
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      #22
      I dont have Showtime so I like it better this way. Would have been same quality matches anyway.

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      • aldo5408
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        #23
        Showtime.Coming back harder I like that they are showing all types of promoters in there shobox

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        • kiaba360
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          #24
          They just need to keep pumping out those ShoBox cards. I wish they would stop showing fights like Wilder/Molina though.

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          • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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            #25
            Espinoza ****ed those guys. We all warned them about Espinoza.

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            • al-Xander
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              #26
              My take is Espinoza was hired because of Haymon. He's just one of the pawn pieces Haymon (and Schaefer at that time) played when they were pitching their plan to CBS executives over a dinner table in some 5 star restaurant.

              With Mayweather aboard, the trio's (Haymon/Schaefer/Espinoza) plan was to make truckloads of money off of PPV earnings. Schaefer is of the belief that HBO was cheating and was not giving the right PPV numbers when he was with them. He believes PPVs could be more. If you recall, Schaefer was the guy who predicted unbelievable PPV sales such as 3 million in the Mosley/Mayweather, then another 3 million in the Canelo fight. Schaefer finally discovered first hand that it's really not that huge. It's not really that lucrative. Especially when you guarantee a fighter $40 million per fight. Maidana vs Broner was initially given a PPV signal by Schaefer, but later decided it's not worth it. From there things began to go downhill. It's not sustainable. We all know that HBO doesn't like PPV's. They'd rather do regular fights on subscription.
              Last edited by al-Xander; 08-03-2015, 10:44 AM.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #27
                And resurrected CBS boxing

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                • Scipio2009
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by blakey
                  showtime took over the game in 2013 and was the future of boxing television

                  then stephen espinoza worked his magic.
                  Espinoza still has Mayweather's final fight (plus a relationship that would give Showtime the inside track on fight #50, were Floyd to decide to fight again), still has Deontay Wilder (his September fight will be on primetime NBC, but Wilder-Povetkin, and Wilder-Klitschko/Fury winner will both likely end up on Showtime [if no primetime spot opens up on NBC/CBS/ABC], and (if he finally commits to the sport) he still has Chavez Jr [the second biggest name Mexican fighter throwing hands right now].

                  You add that CBS/Showtime has the inside track on ending up with the eventual PBC content deal (PBC is likely to also continue the ESPN, Sp1keTV, and BounceTV monthly cards, though NBC/NBCSN is also in the running for the big deal), and you're just hating.

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #29
                    haymon/espinoza

                    when haymon/GBP was dealing with hbo. showtime was killing it. hbo ******.

                    FOTY-type fights and great matchups.

                    showtime use to buy the best matchups available. no fighter/promoter contracts (EXCEPT LIKE TYSON). they just put on best fights available.

                    haymon screwed up showtime.

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                    • -MAKAVELLI-
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                      #30
                      Showtime is fighting back now with this Floyd-Berto ppv

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